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[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How much time until they remove Chinese maintainers?

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Possibly if/when China uses weapons against Taiwan or some other country in Asia according to Theodore Ts'o in that thread (here)

There are multiple sanctions programs, and at least in the US, for the sanctions program which Huawei is in, there is an exception for conversations and patches that take place in a public mailing list, such as LKML. As a result, as the ext4 maintainer, I am comfortable taking patches from engineers employed by Huawei, and I consider them valued members of the ext4 development community.

However, note that China is not actively attacking Taiwai militarily, while there are Russian missiles and drones, some of which may controlled by embedded Linux systems, that are being used against Ukraine even as we speak. Hence, it should not be surprising that the rules imposed by the US Government might be different for Huawei compared to other sanctioned entities that are directly or indirectly controlled by the Russian Military-Industrial complex.

There are also other sanctions regimes imposed by Japan, European Countries, etc., which might be more or less strict. So in general, if you are not sure what you need to do as an US, European, Japanese, etc. citizen who might be subject to civil or criminal penalties ---- talk to a lawyer.

The bottom line is that it is a false equivalence to claim that sanctions involving China and Russia are the same. They very much aren't; one country is engaging in an active shooting war (or if you prefer, "special military operation"), and the other is not.

Of course, if China were to militarily attack Taiwan or some other country in Asia, circumstances might change at some point in the future. Hopefully Chinese leaders will pursue a path of wisdom and those consequences won't come to pass. Ultimately, though, that's not up to any of us on this mail thread.

Cheers,

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 6 points 1 hour ago

Jesus, liberals can never not be smug

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 4 hours ago

There are multiple sanctions programs, and at least in the US, for the sanctions program which Huawei is in, there is an exception for conversations and patches that take place in a public mailing list, such as LKML.

I guess evil ruski developers are having gremlins secretly commit their patches while Linus is fast asleep.

Somewhere else Linus Torvalds flew off the handle. Calling people Russian shills, paid actors etc. To justify his anger, he held up his heritage and said "I'm Finnish".

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sad to see. Must be hard for those who have been following Linux, or even contributing, for a long time, seeing it devolve into such pathetic falling in lockstep with the most demeaning lines of the day about countries the US deems "bad".

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 6 points 1 hour ago

Not too surprising with a Finnish though. Their Russophobia is exceptional among Russophobes.

[–] Darkerseid@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 6 hours ago

this whole debacle has me censored everywhere.

simple double standards. and saying israel is not under sanctions that’s why they aren’t banned. i’m so fkn sick of this nonsense.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 hours ago

all of the Linux infrastructure and a lot of its maintainers are in the US

Maybe if they migrate to the Principality of Sealand 😐