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I’m a teacher and our division just “upgraded” to W11 with a new version of outlook that is basically a web app on desktop. Several times a day my laptop comes to a complete crawl while Teams decides to open itself. Can’t open or close programs, Firefox won’t register mouse clicks, nothing. Graphical glitches appear al the time with menu bars and task bars disappearing regularly, requiring force quitting the app or logging out of the desktop.

When I first switched to Linux I assumed my experience would be like this. But now it’s the other way around.

Rant over.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

I thought outlook had been electron for a while

I've been using the outlook pwa on Linux for some time with no issues, maybe try that instead if it's causing problems for you on windows?

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We have Linux workstations at work.....and these can only be used to access a remote desktop of a Windows 10 virtual machine. 👍

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You can control what programs open on boot in the task manager. Teams was one of the first things I disabled.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That is, if the laptop isn't totally locked down by IT. But knowing school's IT budget that probably isn't the case.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IT "locking down" Laptops often means they just give all power to Microsoft I assume

[–] variants@possumpat.io 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

For us you get a popup that sends a ticket to IT and you have to fill out a reason why you need to do whatever it is you are trying to do. Then you wait like 10 minutes and try again to see if it was approved. If it asks for permission again then you need to assume they rejected it

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Are you serious? "Assuming" is the streamline? DAMN!

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[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

I can’t even change the length of time before the screen locks.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

One of the first things I do while migrating user to a new PC (or just giving one for newly employed person) is that I disable all useless Microsoft shit automatically starting up in the task manager.

[–] Thrife@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hate to say but in our office it's the other way around. Teams HAS to start automatically before outlook can be opened manually otherwise the addin for meetings won't load. Every morning I log in, make some coffee and then go talk to colleagues.. Thanks Microsoft for the slow morning, other see this as luxury!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

I started using Outlook in my Firefox browser during COVID, and have not gone back. Seems to connect to Teams just fine

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

No, I can’t.

[–] exu@feditown.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When I started my new job I got a pretty unrestricted Windows machine, so I decided to try and use that. WSL is pretty impressive and I managed to work with Emacs and some other tools installed in it until Windows decided stuff should run way slower now. Magit got especially slow doing any git operation.

That weekend I installed Linux (with permission) and it's perfect now.

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[–] ashley@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an admin who manages windows devices, it’s not only a pain for the end users. I will readily admit that the management tools are quite extensive and somewhat easy to use, but they’re damn near impossible to debug when they don’t work, and that’s quite often. Gpo’s often refuse to apply without reason, those ads on the Lock Screen? You can remove those if you pay for enterprise or education edition. Running pro? Nope you get ads.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We’re being forced to move everyone to W11 by the end of the year. It’s gonna be hell.

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

My company already did - it was a shitshow and my laptop sucks even more now.

[–] isAdisplayName@mathstodon.xyz 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@maxprime same lol. Somehow the whole os feels like one gigantic advertisement... That is trying it's best to not let you use your computer

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have to use SharePoint on a daily basis.

We pray for you

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

You're fucked.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I spend a lot of my workday looking at windows that have turned white and "not responding", or clicking on things and waiting a minute to see whether the click worked, or waiting for the Start menu to allow me to type, or waiting for the indexing service to spare me a little bit of my computer for my own use, etc. Then I come home to Linux and remember how computers can actually be fast and satisfying to use.

[–] haerrii@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Oh W11 start menu is so damn slow... I usuall smash Win and then immediately start typing the Application I need. After the Windows 11 upgrade, the menu chokes on the first two letters leaving me with having to redo everything slowly.

[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When teams is just doing chat things, it's fine. But the fact that it's the only program that doesn't remember which monitor it is supposed to be on, and never remembers the show on all desktop settings, drives me insane. Not to mention that it seems to restart itself multiple time per day and makes me fix its location each time.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can still use the classic version of Outlook, that comes with latest Office. It is literally called "Outlook (classic)" in the start menu.

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hm. Not sure if it’s because I’ve stuck with gnome and kde. But both definitely freeze often during high I/o or intense processing times.

On multiple machines and multiple distros. It’s one of the most annoying things about it really.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Can't comment on Gnome as I don't use it, but that hasn't been my experience with KDE. Previously running Tumbleweed and now running EndeavourOS

[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 0 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, I noticed that on GNOME as well

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[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah now add Dynamics to all that and you get my day. Eyeroll

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