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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 112 points 11 months ago (5 children)

They can never again argue they need their guns to overthrow an authoritarian government. It was a stupid argument to begin with but now they show they would cheer such a government on.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

As long as they think fascism will only hurt the people they want hurt, they will go right along. By the time they realize their mistake it will be too late.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If they realize their mistake.

The policies of their overlords will begin to bite them and they’ll still blame someone else.

[–] Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world 13 points 11 months ago

They'll say it would be worse with a Democrat.

[–] zarp86@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

As long as they think fascism will only hurt the people they want hurt

Ah, makes me take a trip down memory lane.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We need guns to fucking deal with them AND the tyrannical government they're imposing. 🤦

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Reminder that Trump said “I like taking the guns early ... Take the guns first, go through due process second"

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They will be so upset when dictator Trump bans guns.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As long as the guns are "pointed" at woke warriors, terrifying trannies, and murderous migrants there's no need to take the guns.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

It's this. Remember Trump knows this cult member wouldn't hurt HIM.

Trump knew crowd at rally was armed yet demanded they be allowed to march

Trump said: “I don’t fucking care that they have weapons, they’re not here to hurt me. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the fucking mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here, let the people in and take the mags away.”

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

They defend his comment about taking the guns first and due process second.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Insert an "always has been" meme here.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 104 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Remember... Your conservative friends and family will politely wave as they watch you escorted away to be "re-educated".

Your conservative family, neighbors and co-workers do not value your life the way you value theirs. They are simply not capable of that. Empathy is not a conservative trait. It never has been.

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[–] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Hero-worship is strongest where there is least regard for human freedom." - Herbert Spencer

[–] stochasticity@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Okay, this quote may be fine, but let's not pretend Herbert Spencer wasn't an advocate of a lot of bad ideas.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (8 children)

We should pick one candidate to all vote for in the Republican primaries.

There's no Democratic primaries this year and we're stuck with Biden. We don't have to be stuck with Trump as his opponent. If someone else wins the Republican primary, Trump will run as a third party candidate and split the fascist vote.

And it doesn't matter which one. Any non-Trump nominee will drag down Trump and vice versa. I'd suggest whoever comes in second in Iowa, just because they're the most likely to have any momentum at all.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I agree. I think every single non-Trumper in this country should vote for Chris Christie in the primary. He is the least dangerous candidate, it will piss off Trump the most if Christie is the nominee, and you can guarantee it will mean a third party run for Trump. Seems like a net win all around.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Can you imagine the pucker and about-face the Republican party would have to do if CC were the nominee?

Edit: I'll do it. It's legal in Michigan and I'm an independent anyway, allowed to vote in either primary I choose. Why shouldn't I vote to nominate the Republican that I think would be the best to lead the country from those options?

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It would be truly glorious to watch all these ball-coddlers have to tuck tail and try to save their own asses from their knuckle-dragging constituents.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Why shouldn’t I vote to nominate the Republican that I think would be the best to lead the country from those options?

I mean... you absolutely should! Not even just to "sabotage" Trump. That's just a good idea in general.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, it’s pretty fucked up that chris christie is the “sane” vote for “sane “ conservatives.

Like he’s not exactly a paragon of integrity, or good governance.

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[–] YeahBuoy@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Some (many?) states have closed Republican primaries. In the states you can only participate if you are a registered republican.

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Which is exactly why I'm registered as Republican.

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please Tread on Me

-Alpha Male Conservatives

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago

Oppress me harder daddy

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really worry about 2024. Between trump announcing "yup, we are gonna have a beer hall putsch" and Biden saying "Yeah, I'm a zionist and we need to 100% support israel"... It feels real bad man.

I'm going to vote for biden, make no mistake (because he's still a better president than trump ever could be)... but dude seems to be doing everything possible to lose progressive votes. I'm really worried that trump ends up being president because of the disillusion from Biden's centrism and Israel support.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It helps to remember that the US president will always support Israel. It doesn't matter who is president. Unless we magically get someone like Bernie Sanders at some point, the US will always support Israel.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think even Bernie would, but with a lot more criticality. Calling for a ceasefire, attaching conditions to aid, drawing red lines for US support.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ironic that the guy who actually lost close family in the holocaust is the one who doesn't have his head up his ass about the Israeli government

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is how we get Nazi 2.0.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It's so blatant it is totally wild...

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

This is the third time Conservatives have done this, it fails every time. Though they did get their own Confederacy once.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 39 points 11 months ago

No, but you see, they're just "economically anxious", not literal fascists. /s

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Ship them off with trump to some other land

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They don't want to be ruled by him. They want him to be cruel to everyone else. Without the everyone else, they don't really have much use for him.

[–] CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll never forget that Trump supporter complaining that "he's hurting the wrong people" during his administration

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Better idea- send them to Florida or Texas and build a "big, beautiful wall" between them and the rest of the U.S.

And make them pay for it.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago

Sheep often need to be led. Even if, no- especially when… it’s to the slaughterhouse.

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does this mean they raised their right hands in a salute?

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

The republican traitor filth must be held to account and brought under the heel of the law.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 9 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Have we tried talking to these people? Perhaps in a diner setting, that would be good

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