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Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn't find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it's fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Edit: I have delete roblox due to 2 reasons one to ease deleting windows and their management

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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Dualboot definitely, don't belive anything other than that, taking slow the only good way

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago

plan to wipe windows in the future anyways bcs win11 sucks

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

should I completely jumpship to linux when windows 10 ends support

Nah, there's no need to wait.

I'd recommend dual booting right now so you can transition over a longer period. Also make sure your chosen distro supports dual-boot. Technically any distro can dual-boot but if it doesn't support dual-boot you'll have to put in some extra effort to make sure both can boot safely and easily.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

need it for some apps but its possible i can switch on march 2025 a whole few months before windows 10 ends support

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 19 hours ago

You'll never be wrong by making it dual boot - if you won't need Windows, hooray, but if you will - it's still there, always has been.

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 61 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.

Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won't mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine(proton and native gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

Did you write "thinkering" on purpose? Because it's fantastic.

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[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (13 children)

You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.

Don’t wait, prepare!

Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.

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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 9 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It's not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you're up for it, I used this tutorial. If it's an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.

As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I'm going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).

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[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.

Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.

My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 20 points 1 day ago

The longer you wait, the more distros we'll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

I jump shipped to arch when I first started out. But I had experience with Linux vms for school already

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why wait? There's no need for Windows, unless you're running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.

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[–] nous@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I am already dualbooting I discovered most of my software I need work first I need to get rid of affinity suite since it's a trial and then I can get rid of roblox if I start becoming bored of it for multiple reasons(rubin Sim explains this well)

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[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can always consider the experience of using Linux as a "game" itself and DU ET NAO!

...no really. Do it.

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[–] DoubleChad@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Throwing out another idea: I upgraded an aging laptop and put mint on it and it's my main right now, but I can get on the newer windows computer if I need to. I rarely need to now, though things will come up and its nice to have an out. Recently it was getting my printer working which I so rarely use. Didn't have the patience, just needed the doc printed, flipped to windows.

It's a little sad to me. I watched windows rise to its peak with windows 2000 and slowly fall. Been using it since 3.1, and had dos-only for a little while before that. It's time to say goodbye. Been on and off with Linux since the early 2000s but this is my first real big push to use it outside of work or projects. Linux has come a long way from those days.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what printer brand your on?

[–] DoubleChad@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a Canon. If I just sit down for a bit with it I'm sure I can get it working, but sometimes you just want it to work right now.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

oh brother people say it works and hp there is a software for it and idk about canon but there is prob no linux support like their cameras.

[–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cups takes some playing with to get right but once you have it setup and saved, the thing should work whenever

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

ohh yeah cups i forgot ik its used by the hp software

[–] derbolle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I switched a year or so ago and never looked back. there will be issues you need to overcome though. so better start with dualboot before windows 10 is eol

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Every sane person will recommend Linux only. However not everyone can use it. WMs decrease performance so you'll need good hardware. Dualboot may delete one of your OSes. It's a matter of if it's worth it or not. I personally don't see a problem with running Windows only for gaming. Though if you're paranoid about privacy then it may not be a good idea if your Linux partition is not encrypted (if there are backdoors, someone can mount your Linux partition remotely and read it etc etc). If you still want to keep Windows, buy a second physical drive to avoid the OS deletion risk.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No better way to learn and get used to it than ripping off the bandage and being forced to deal with it. That's what I did. Been Windows-free for ten years. If you still have a Windows partition around, it may be too tempting to just go back to it when things get a bit hairy.

As far as games, yeah, it sucks that I can't play some games, but I've filled that time with more productive hobbies. I can program C and C++ now, self taught on Linux.

But the more people that jump ship, the more developers will target Linux, so it's just a matter of time now before you can play anything again. It's definitely a 1000x better environment now than when I switched back then.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

if you only play mostly indie,singleplayer they should work fine in my opinion and apps find the alterntives?

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Jump ship. Just know, windows will pull you back in, especially if you work in corporate/office work. I was doing my work from home on Linux for two years straight, then my work mandated windows 11 for everyone. It’s been a nightmare. I just want my xfce!

[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 20 hours ago

Honestly I'm considering just using Windows server 2022. I've got it running on my dedi and it's great. I don't see any reason not to just install it on my pc too.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you switch to single boot Linux you can always install Windows in a virtual machine later in a pinch.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Windows is dropping support for dual boot?

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

Doo Eeeet, Doo EEeet Now!!!

Seriously though, I vote VM under linux. Spin it up for whatever you need, use it less and less, no regrets...

[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wish I could switch to Linux but sadly I can't (one of the main things I use a computer for won't work on Linux) so I'll be using windows 10 beyond eol and forever into the foreseeable future and I don't see native instruments making a Linux version any time soon. I email them at least once a year asking about it in the hope they one day fucking do it!

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I tried dual-booting Win10 and Arch for a few months. It was problematic.

I had to set the clock every time I switched because one expected the hardware clock to use UTC time and the other expected local time.

NTFS on Linux is not good. The driver works, but there are fundamental differences between NTFS and Unix-like filesystems that makes cooperation difficult (e.g. NTFS uses ACLs instead of the user/group ownership and user/group/others permissions of Unix). Windows also places additional restrictions on the filesystem (e.g. NTFS supports file names that contain :, Windows doesn't) that can completely bork the volume if violated.

But the worst offender, and what made me nuke Windows entirely, is Windows Update. It completely fucked up the boot partition, deleted the bootloader, then died and left Windows unusable.

These are all issues that can be solved, if you know how to solve them. My advice is to go cold turkey and delete Windows from your life.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Jump ship with us all! 😁 At this point, the very few games that I am leaving behind are only the ones that use anticheat systems that do not work with linux, and I don't think I'll really miss letting a game company rootkit my macine...

I would go the VM route first, and if you run into any troubles then you still always have the option of installing a 2nd hard drive for bare-metal windows dual boot later. If you do need to dual boot, I don't recommend partitioning one hard drive. Windows isn't good at sharing.

If you're new to linux and unsure about what distribution to install, there are plenty of better sources online with distro recommendations. I tend to use Debian on server/headless and Fedora for desktop/laptop. But I will say, picking an option with the KDE/Plasma desktop environment will probably be the easiest transition. It should feel and look pretty familiar to what you are used to with Windows and many distros offer an installation for KDE/Plasma.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you’re new to linux and unsure about what distribution to install, there are plenty of better sources online with distro recommendations. I tend to use Debian on server/headless and Fedora for desktop/laptop. But I will say, picking an option with the KDE/Plasma desktop environment will probably be the easiest transition. It should feel and look pretty familiar to what you are used to with Windows and many distros offer an installation for KDE/Plasma.

I have used linux in the past and currently using it i have been using linux more then windows

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

ngl most of the games that don't work on linux are owned by frauds companies or have issues with management and waiting for affinity subscription to end as well i wanna get rid of the other windows ssd i can get the most space with raid

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