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Can you milk a bee? I didn't think so!
Honey is a by-product of bees, the same way that all human made food is a by-products of humans.
Dude, language!
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so if I buy food from people I'm basically a cannibal
I think it’s more accurate to think of you trapping humans in your basement and leaving them a bag of groceries every once in a while. Then you go down there and take whatever they cooked with the produce. They get to eat what they make, you just get the leftovers. They also can’t leave.
Except the leftovers part, bees don't make "extra" or "leftover" honey.
Sure if the humans have no idea they are in captivity and their lives are basically the same they would have been otherwise.
Actually if bees don't like the hive you put them in, they absolutely will leave. I haven't had happen to me personally but I have heard of it happening to others; you put the package in and come back to find that 200$+ worth of bees just upped and flew away.
This isn't true for the vast majority of commercial honey unfortunately. If you're buying it from the supermarket, or any producer that operates at even medium scale, they'll clip the wings of the queen so that the hive is unable to leave even if they want to.
And then they lose the hive anyway due to CCD or some nutrient deficiency that results from only consuming almond nectar.
"Hive looks like someone put it together like a wasp.. 0/5 stars"
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I appeal to the Director of Veganism!
Stupid discussion. It does not matter whether something is in the box "vegan". Ask yourself why you would or would not eat something. If you don't want to eat(/drink) dairy because of the way the animals that produce the dairy are treated, would you be ok when they are treated differently? Are bees treated in the same way? Does it matter if you treat them in this way? Those should be your questions, not "does it belong in this box?".
If you can explain a vegan way to get milk, meat, or honey then I'm all ears. You seem to be implying there is some gray area here.
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