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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

So typical redittor?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, "gas station heroin" is a pretty apt description.

And the way it's sold, people get hooked before they realize what's going.

It's crazy that's stuff legal but cannabis isn't.

I mean, this dude is likely a giant asshole, and fuck him.

But this stuff fucks over a lot of lives of people with no idea what they're taking.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What is gas station heroin if you wouldn't mind filling me in?

[–] zarp86@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks.

Crazy stuff.

The drug's true identity emerged after researchers figured out it's a type of opioid — one that does, in fact, work in a way that's similar to heroin

Aptly named at least. Honestly was not expecting actual opiates for sale with petrol.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

It has Mu receptor activity at very large doses, it is a (somewhat) effective anti depression response at low doses.

What that all means is that the withdrawals from long term use as an opiate, rather than an antidepressant are absolutely legendary. Imagine having to withdraw from Heroin... but also you have to withdraw from a large dose of antidepressant at the same time... terrifying.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

petrol

I think this is a uniquely American problem due to our low regulations and ridiculous drug laws.

But for the most part things need to be explicitly outlawed, and everything else is fair game to be sold for human consumption as a "supplement".

We went thru it with "Spice" and your country may have as well. They used analogs to THC, and at first it really felt like weed. But we'd outlaw the current one, and the company had the next one already in production. Stores/gas stations would literally have the next generation in the back so they could rotate the day the current one was outlawed.

Like, I remember back in the day when I played sports, lots of guys wouldn't take a weightlifting supplement that had been on the market more than two years... Because anything "good" would have been taken off the market by then.

It's just a revolving door where no one really knows what's anything.

So even tho this is and opioid, no one checked if it was safe first, and when it's outlawed it'll be tweaked just enough to be something new. And that "new" version will have more negatives and less positives, but if you're hooked on the old kind, you're gonna use the new kind over nothing. Or maybe move to legit black market.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah we had something similar here for a while. "Head shops" were selling bath salts and spice and what not.

The government struggled to catch up because the next analogue was ready to go the second any ban came in.

Eventually they brought out what was essentially a "fuck this shit" piece of legislation. Was a good few years ago now. More than ten if memory serves. It all shut down overnight.

Things are way more regulated here though in general (Ireland). I can't even buy melatonin over the counter which honestly is both stupid and annoying.

Edit: We do still have the good sudafed though. One with two paracetamol is great for a hangover. :)

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Tianeptine was common in noot stacks sometime around 2013 (I don't quite remember when I dropped that hobby) and it is weird. A little is good, more is better but it is moreish. I can see why people who are buying these little drinks by the case are ODing and sometimes dying. I'm not saying I think this stuff should be regulated but I think the lack of regulation overall leads people to think that it must be safe because it's at a gas station. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. Phenazepam is one such example from my reckless days.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Worth checking out the Search Engine podcast about Kratom & Tianeptine, "The Mystery of the Vape Shop Kratom". It's absolutely nuts that this stuff has zero oversight

[–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Sounds like this could be right up my alley. Thanks for the recommendation

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Y'all are ragging on him for being a Vance guy, but this is all good advice.

[–] noride@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago

That is exactly the kind of mustache I'd expect to dabble in gas station pills and research chemicals.

[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 10 points 5 hours ago
[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

A different user commented on the post, pointing out Kofsky and writing, “that dude on the right behind him looks high on something lol.”

PsychoticMammal then agreed with the user, writing, “Haha I didn’t notice that guy before. His eyes are def buggin. Maybe snorted some ole white girl beforehand? I’m sure half of congress rails lines.”

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

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