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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 98 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

That graph is so misleading. Makes it look like almost all the users disappeared but the Y axis only covers a small range at the top.

[–] Steve@communick.news 62 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

The full range is about 5.5%. So while it is misleading, a 5% drop in a graph that consistent isn't nothing. Something substantial absolutly changed

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe whole Instance that went offline.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 13 hours ago

That's my guess to

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Cool then it should be 5.5% of the visual space for it to not be misleading. But it’s represented much larger. And OP is (edit to sound less mean) not updating the post sooo…

I call shade

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. Not the over a million that it looks like at a glance.

The user count isn't helpful anyway, active users is a much better measure.

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] Blaze@feddit.org 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I captured the graph with the number after the decrease at the bottom right to try to show the number of lost users, but I see where you come from

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 14 hours ago

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

[–] rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

would this not happen if a whole instance got shut down?

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Either that or blocked the crawler on their Instance.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I have a feeling it was caused by something like that, likely a failure of some kind. The drop is way too steep and abruptly for it to be natural.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

An active instance would have an impact on active users

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not immediately though right? since the active users are a month or half-year. Or does it automatically update that too?

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Active users are daily too (you have day, week and month counters in the sidebar of all communities)

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I was talking about on the fediverse observer. It wouldn't show up immediately there.

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The Fediobserver has daily and monthly stats for active users. I assume daily indeed follow daily variations. You also saw those huge bumps when LW updated and started counting votes as activity

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the observer shows daily and monthly stats for the active users per month and active users per half year so the active users per month wouldn't change as fast I think.

Also about it being a botfarm I do think that is a possibility. Actually there is more evidence for it when you see extend the graph to 120 days and see a huge uptick in users and servers at the same time. Edit: 2024-7-29

Edit: wording

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

I think the observer shows daily and monthly stats for the active users per month and active users per half year so the active users per month wouldn’t change as fast I think.

Indeed, I was remembering it wrong, you might be right!

Also about it being a botfarm I do think that is a possibility. Actually there is much clearer evidence for it when you see extend the graph to 120 days and see a huge uptick in users and servers at the same time. Edit: 2024-7-29

Definitely

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 24 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Maybe it's a problem with the crawler.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Which one of you forgot to open the app so we all ceased to exist to save on simulation resources?

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Go on... lol

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Was the metric measured before the day the was over which would limit the timeframe of the final day and show fewer users?
I dont see this chart when I click the link

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

It should be there, it's the second graph