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Jack the Ripper breakthrough as DNA 'finally unmasks serial killer' (www.express.co.uk)
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[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 111 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The DNA match that the author claims is very suspect. Here is a good article about why. The bullet points are:

Shawl: There was no contemporary documentation that the shawl was recovered from the crime scene

There was no contemporary documentation that the Inspector that supposedly took the shawl and gifted it to his wife was at the crime scene

The shawl was silk and had an expensive design making it unlikely that Eddowes would have owned it

DNA: The DNA collected and compared was mitochondrial DNA which is far less unique than nuclear DNA, mitochondrial DNA is generally considered exclusory rather than inclusory

The shawl was not kept free from contamination, descendents of both the identified victim and the identified suspect are known to have handled the shawl prior to testing

On top of the problematic DNA match from his last book the author is now layering on conspiracy theories concerning Freemasons and antisemitism for his new book to draw even more questionable conclusions.

Edited to fix link and spelling

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm sorry, do you mean shawl? I've been having a hard time reading and understanding things lately, so I tried Googling "shaw" and found a bunch of people named that which is extra confusing in this context

[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I edited my comment to fix the spelling. Thanks for letting me know about the error.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thank you for editing. It is a good comment, sorry I got a little lost on my way through it

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They meant "shawl" all 6 or so times they said "shaw", yes.

[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Op meant shawl like a coat blanket thing

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

No matter how much evidence and proof you have, half the people will say it wasn't him. Especially historians who are dead set on a different suspect

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Reading other sources, I doubt this claim as well.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 85 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I knew it was Ted Cruz.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're thinking of the Zodiac Killer. Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer.

[–] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 month ago

Ted Cruz can be more than one thing. Don't pigeonhole Ted Cruz.

[–] ChaosInstructor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i heard that he was the phantom killer...

[–] Nomad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Shitter.... He was the phantom shitter.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

detectives believed he had a "great hatred of women, specially of the prostitute class, and had strong homicidal tendencies".

No shit, Sherlock.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 39 points 1 month ago

Oh, it's just a new book promotion. Joy...

[–] ooli@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

some sperm on a prostitute shawl? Yeah this woman had some client no wonder we find DNA on her, it is a stretch to go from client to killer.

This story is old: Jack the Ripper: Scientist who claims to have identified notorious killer has 'made serious DNA error'

my favorite theory is:

Mary PEARCEY, Jack the Ripper according to sir Arthur Conan Doyle

spoilerMary Pearcey, like many other famous Victorian-era murderers, has been suggested as a suspect in the Jack the Ripper slayings. She was apparently the only female suspect mentioned at the time. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, creator of Sherlock Holmes, speculated at the time that the Ripper might have been female, as a woman could have pretended to be a midwife and be seen in public in bloody clothing without arousing suspicion or notice.

This theory was then expanded upon in 1939 by William Stewart in his book Jack the Ripper: A New Theory, which specifically named Pearcey in connection with the crimes. All evidence given is circumstantial, and there is no physical evidence or eyewitness reports linking Pearcey to the Ripper crimes.

F. Tennyson Jesse, the British criminal historian, explained the theory in her study of Pearcey's case: "It was no wonder that, simultaneously with the discovery of the crime, legends should have sprung up around her figure. The rumour even arose that the notorious Jack the Ripper had been at work in the locality, and though this was quickly disproved, yet the violence and horror associated with the crime was such as to make it understandable how the rumour arose in the first place. Even in the earliest paragraphs which announced the discovery of the crime, several false statements were suggested."

In May 2006, DNA testing of saliva on stamps affixed to letters allegedly sent by Jack the Ripper to London newspapers, and thought by some modern writers to be genuine, appeared to come from a woman. This led to extensive discussion of Pearcey and her crime in the global press.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know who it was, but my dad was very interested in the case and was convinced there was a Salvation Army connection for reasons I don't remember, but then years after he told me that, this came up:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/14/jack-the-ripper-new-novel-suggests-east-end-serial-killer-female-salvation-army-worker_n_5583639.html

[–] ooli@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

very interesting, but anything about Jack the ripper is, thanks for the link

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

Ok so now all the AIs are going to hallucinate that Russell Edwards was Jack the Ripper, right?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Sebastian is with the Vorlons

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All this time I thought his name was Jack.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Naw. Jack was the guy rose drowned in that movie about big ship that sunk.

I think.

Honestly, the old women ranting about decaprio’s ass was more interesting than the movie.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

paywalled 😕