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[–] StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I lose my ad blocker it's like losing access to the internet for me

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

Pretty much, and I think this highlights just how important it is to have at least two independently developed browser engines. If Chromium becomes the only game in town that would effectively let Google, which makes most of its revenue from ads, decide how we access the internet. That would be an absolutely terrible scenario to be in.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately is not that simple, now Google is pushing a new standard web environment called WEI and all browsers will be affected with it. Is not just a matter of free choice.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We'll see if sites really start forcing this standard, could just turn into a situation where you use Chrome as an app to access specific sites that force it and Firefox for everything else.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The late stage of capitalism will force sites to adopt the WEI. Trust me. Privacy will be a luxury good in near future.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At that point we might see a split between corporate and open internet.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If and only "if" this split occur. Unfortunately only few tech conscious people about the importance of free internet as a whole and privacy will adhere to it. Will not be a big movement to harm the core of the big tech.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

My perspective on this is that it's about sustainability as opposed to trying to compete with big tech in a zero sum game. For example, Mastodon or Lemmy aren't able to compete with commercial platforms in terms of users, but that doesn't mean they're not viable communities. I can see a future where there's a niche open internet that exists independently of the commercial one and I think that would be fine. As long as there are enough people to do development on platforms and browsers and to produce content, that's all that really matters. In fact, a split might even be better because then we wouldn't have companies interfering with how the network operates.

[–] SyJ@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Banks will force it pretty quickly. I can't bank on a rooted android already.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I think banks and online stores are the most likely early adapters of this.

[–] Solaris1789@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

We can only hope normal people start using firefox again and ditch the piece of cold garbage that is chrome/ium. Though i doubt most people nowadays will even think about switching browsers (like how windows still has like 75+% of market share despite its quality freefalling since win10 and the most user hostile stuff being added)

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

If experience gets bad enough then people will look for alternatives. IE was something like 90% of the market share at one point and then it lost it fairly rapidly.