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[–] calabast@lemm.ee 265 points 2 months ago (32 children)
[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 107 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Careful, there are some edgy people out there who don’t want to use more than one browser because Firefox doesn’t work with their cameras /s

Meanwhile, I’ll still be using Firefox too

[–] Donut@leminal.space 61 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Who needs to give their browser access to their camera?

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

May be bad phrasing, but Firefox doesn’t support h.265 so there’s limitations with streaming video on some camera platforms and other sites.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 41 points 2 months ago (4 children)

TIL Firefox doesn't support HEVC. Hadn't really noticed that before, I guess it's why some Jellyfin streams started transcoding for me.

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

It is supported in the nightly build and full support is in the works currently.

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/hevc-support/idc-p/63424/highlight/true#M36557

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

People who have to use their browser for telehealth and virtual teller banking access.

Sadly these are also things that require better security.

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[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

People who use Webex, zoom, etc for one use in try browser and don’t normally use those links. Happens at work when an outside vendor doesn’t use what we do.

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[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 124 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What could go wrong when you let an ad company dictate the browser standards/rules.

I know we have Firefox and some forks like librewolf, but percentage wise it feels like a lost battle ( even if I am on Firefox ).

If only people switched en masse to Firefox for the ad blocker. Wouldn't that be something... One big collective FU to Google.

Oh well. One can dream I guess.

[–] SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago (9 children)

The average Joe or Jane have no idea about ad blocking possibilities. They think ads are just the normal price you pay for surfing the web.

I have even shown people the difference between their browsing experience and mine, and still they can't be arsed to install an ad-blocker.

But then again, they use tiktok and Instagram and all the other brain-numbing shit out there.

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[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 98 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We've known this was coming for a while now . . . but I suppose not everyone reads tech news.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

one might say that this piece of news is the... canary... in the coal mine?

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 81 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to recommend uBlock as a no-brainer, now folks really need to change towards a better browser.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Or get network wide blocking. Doesn’t prevent everything but it does prevent most ads. Makes the internet tolerable at least.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

nah, lets get them switched away from chromium based spy machines.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not everyone can. Work machines for instance.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Can't install extensions on a work machine but you can add a network wide blocker?

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[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

sadly, agreed. mindshare leads to adoption, tho - so putting Firefox in front of more faces is always a positive. after all, its how google dominates.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (15 children)

And what? If someone can live with ads, they can stay. Otherwise anyone can install Firefox. I was all-in Google since the beginning of Gmail. And switching to Firefox was completely painless. Everything works the same, times of website incompatibility are long gone.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 81 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because Google is trying to turn the internet into a walled garden where only people with Chrome can visit the majority of websites.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago (15 children)

I've been been a full time Firefox user for three years now. Haven't experience a single problem like that. Haven't really experienced any problem at all to be honest

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that has not been the case for me. Some sites for buying concert tickets don't seem to like Firefox.

I've had problems with several Microsoft sites we use internally for work ever since Edge went to Chrome.

It's not Firefox's fault. Mozilla is abiding by web standards.

[–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago

If you find any websites that don't work with firefox, you should report them to Mozilla. Firefox has a list of known bad websites, and has fixes for them, usually just a user agent override.

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[–] Integrate777@discuss.online 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

What if websites decide that chrome users earn much more ad revenue and start forcing users to switch with those "This website only supports Chrome" error messages? What if this practice gets popular? I'm sure there are ways to get around it, but the average users who bothered switching to Firefox at all, will just conclude that anything except chrome has a bad browsing experience.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Can't you have your Firefox browser just report itself as chrome?

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

times of website incompatibility are long gone

I wish I could agree with that. Hell, I have to use Chrome to download my phone bill from Virgin, and a couple of others don't work.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming FF. It's these lazy web developers that only target Chrome. I'm sure Safari users get the same shit experience.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe we're thinking about this wrong. Maybe we should all start running plugins that just load whatever ads that show up in the background hundreds of times without showing them to us. Every viewer is thousands upon thousands of impressions and click through rates become absolutely miserable. We can make the ads worthless or maybe even make them cost a significant amount of money to host.

[–] washbasin@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

AdNauseam does this to a lesser degree. I'm not sure how effective it is.

https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 50 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I suspect this will soon be followed by a renewed effort by google to kill firefox compatability.

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't see this coming. Thanks for reporting it 😁

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It did its job then. Gave warning.

🐥⛏️

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[–] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Looks like time to find a new browser!

[–] avieshek@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

May I interest you in browsers based on FireFox?

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 21 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] stinerman@midwest.social 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Someone who repackages/patches free software has different incentives than upstream. So generally speaking, derivative browsers are more privacy friendly, have better features, etc.

That's not to say that upstream isn't important. It absolutely is! It's just that derivatives are generally better.

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[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully wikipedia recognizes this as the official Canary in the Chrome mine. I was first impressed with chrome book because of seeing them used for education, getting my own laptop during school would've been mindblowing to kid me. I was unimpressed with the strangulation process of the OS but again shocked when they added a linux boot mode. There needs to be better alternatives by now, I would be ok with an OS developed by the department of education in conjunction with higher educational institutions. Could have a decent non-profit approach to a browser and ad blockers could legitimately be built in as a "protect the children" aim of approach.

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[–] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Been using Firefox for quite a time now! What are the other alternatives?

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ladybird is working really hard to become good enough for daily drive. Will they succeed? Idk. How long will it take? Idk.

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[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How many times has this been announced already?

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought they already killed it? They keep killing it multiple times.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 months ago
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