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[–] Juice@midwest.social 64 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Just going to keep posting this every time it comes up.

We could reduce energy and materials cost of global production worldwide to 30% current capacity by planning production instead of leaving it to the market, and greatly increase the standard of living for everyone on this planet. But first we have to get rid of capitalism and institute democratic socialist planning.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7n1POfYMo1I3kcy0oqSm6l?si=8ikYVJN8TIupvjoaCMRssA

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

But first we have to get rid of capitalism and institute democratic socialist planning.

All strains of Socialism are democratic, it's a bit redundant to include unless you're trying to emphasize the democratic factor as opposed to our current system.

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[–] Raglesnarf@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

whoa whoa whoa

slow down there Karl Marx /s

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

Speed up there Marx!

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[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 weeks ago

The last panel should have an and, not an or

[–] Korrok@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I misread this as "this country has always been ruled by the lich".

And yeah, tbh, yeah.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

That would explain a lot of policies.....

And Dick Cheney.

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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Just putting it out there that "property owning" is not the class deliniator! I "own" my house/property and the only differences are that i pay rent to a bank instead of a landlord, and i can knock holes in the walls if i want to.

I'm still pretty much paycheck to paycheck, squarely in the working class.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We dont want your toothbrush dude

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

If you're paying rent to a bank, you don't own your house, at least not yet.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Of course you're working class. It's about the owners of Capital property. Does your house that you own (which I doubt since you imply you have a mortgage) make money for you?

It's us versus a very small number of them.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

It's not about stopping climate change anymore. That ship has sailed and sunk.

Now its about surviving long enough to witness very bad things happening to very bad people.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago

There is still time to change course, however carbon sequestration is becoming a more important part of climate action. Doomerism just acts as an excuse to not take action.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago

witness very bad things happening to very bad people.

Yeah, not gonna happen in this life. Karma is a happy accident, not a rule

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[–] Fern@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

20 years? Jamie pull that up.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Well it was 25 years in 2019, and I’d round down since we’re in September so yeah, 20 to go.

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Damnit, Gritty!

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

20 years? Not 25? I thought 2060 was when things would really crumble due to climate change is we continued business as usual (which is what we're doing).

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 15 points 2 weeks ago

Does it matter? Ultimately, these are estimates. Educated, data backed estimates, but still estimates.

One larger than expected volcanic eruption, coral reefs dying faster than expected, whatever, all it takes is one or two things to not go the way they're expected and everything speeds up.

20 years or 25 years, the point is we're all kinda fucked unless we do something about it.

What we need to do has been and will continue to be debated ad nauseam, but we know we must do something.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Covid ended any hope I have. We couldn't get people to put on a fucking mask or get vaccinations when the disease was right in front of us killing millions of people.

There's absolutely no way we're gonna get people on board with fighting the climate disaster. Humanity will be lucky if it survives itself.

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