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Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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[–] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 205 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He is such a fucking scumbag. Fuck him and fuck the rest of Israel.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 139 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that's part of the problem. There's elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we'd actually see some effective change.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It's ridiculous that there's effectively only two parties, and it's ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

Compulsory voting Ease of access for voting Preferential voting Lower bar for running, meaning every citizen has the opportunity to run

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The president sure gets the credit for a lot of things (the president signed this into law, the president enacted this policy) but in reality Congress makes most of that a reality.

There is also accountability... but only if the congress acts on it. Which is where that whole "vote more than once every four years" thing comes in. Congress has power... we just have not elected people who use that power responsibly.

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

All candidates steer clear away from condemning Israel because they know they’ll lose votes if they do. Sounds like this one is on the people.

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[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Looking at the protests against him in Israel I think many if not most Israelis don't want this campaign of violence. For many years I've felt sorry for all the civilians in that area, because they are trying to live their lives and extremist assholes on all sides keep killing them.

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Settlers can go fuck themselves though.

Absolutely. They are extremist assholes.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The protests aren't against his policy of genocide in Palestine.

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[–] wolfeh@lemmy.world 137 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

including scores of women and children

This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but... that's always seemed weird to me.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It's easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.

Life is harsh when you're a guy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given the Israeli position on military rape, it's just a different flavor of attrocity.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

And they kill women.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan

The age old problem of "excess males" solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.

[–] Evrala@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And a child is assumed to be a future combatant.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And woman a combatant factory?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

They’ll probably start calling grains of sand terrorists.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

Anyone past puberty actually.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children "sounds" worse than "people" dying.

I mean, a score is 20. I think that means they've killed two thousand scores of people. "Scores of women and children" doesn't really do that justice.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 101 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Good point, them leaving says I don’t want to be involved not that I want to stop the injustice.

[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's the only way they can express their revulsion at Israel, and the US who constantly block anything else they might try

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[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 69 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This might matter in ten years if Netanyahu hangs.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

That sack of shit should have been arrested.

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

why isn't he arrested already? I wish I had similar privileges, where I could break laws (thst don't violate human rights ofc.), make a shitload of money and travel the world freely.

[–] Azamandriel@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now if they would actually take action.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they'll pass another strongly worded resolution.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which the USA will find a way to veto or Israel will continue to ignore it.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

We've always been good at walking away, closing our ears, turning a blind eye…

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