The GOP isn't negotiating in good faith anyway.
this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
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They’ll keep moving the Goal Posts…
This is the true weakness of the Democratic Party and why we will need to eliminate FPTP elections in the government after Trump’s dictatorship
There is no after, once he is in he isn’t leaving, and anyone that follows ain’t gonna be preaching democracy either
Everything is temporary, even dictatorships
This is how politics works and how it should work.
The sides involved have competing goals and work together to pass legislation which addresses both their goals.
This isn't weakness.
Except we're not talking about legislation - though that also doesn't work when one party refuses to cooperate.
The competing interests that a big tent party like the Democrats are incompatible. In order to support Israel - which will alienate Muslim and progressive voters - they need to compromise with Republicans for stricter immigration laws - which will alienate Latin Americans.
Having a FPTP system forces all these disparate groups into one party because the alternative is worse, but by alienating voters they reduce turnout, which means Republicans win anyway. The voting coalition is too easily fractured to be an effective opposition to the Republicans.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON — A number of Hispanic and Latino members of Congress, as well as advocacy groups, are becoming increasingly concerned that President Joe Biden may strike a deal with Republicans on immigration that they find unacceptable in order to secure passage of his high-priority Ukraine and Israel aid package.
The official stressed that the White House understands the urgency and expects to ramp up its outreach to Capitol Hill this week — but that engagement will be dependent on having a clear framework to work from, which hasn’t yet emerged.
One senator in that meeting, Alex Padilla of California, said Saturday that “allowing an aid package for our allies to be held hostage in exchange for permanent and cruel Trump-era immigration policies sets a dangerous precedent” and urged Biden “not to cave to these extreme demands.”
I’ve been very disappointed in the lack of engagement from the administration on this very consequential supplemental package that ties foreign aid to fundamental changes in border and immigration policy,” Rep. Gabe Vasquez, a freshman Democrat from New Mexico, said Saturday.
Vasquez, who last month introduced a border and immigration package that includes legislation backed by a handful of Republicans, said CHC members “deserve to be at the table before we are forced to vote on a bill on which we had no input or influence.”
Rep. Robert Menendez Jr., D-N.J., said in a statement that “permanently altering our asylum system and denying migrants this legal process is completely unacceptable” and urged Biden and Senate Democrats to “make clear to the GOP that critical aid for our allies cannot be used as a bargaining chip at the expense of our American ideals and values as a nation of immigrants.”
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