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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whenever someone calls something "socialist", ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it "Owningthelibism" or something.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that's not socialism. It's just not neoliberalism.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What makes countries where the State has high power fail then?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Concentration of power with those "social services", making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.

[–] christiansocialist@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that'll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.

China has tons of small and big businesses and it's still socialist.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Chinese companies are basically extensions of the government.

[–] OutOfIdeas@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Most corperations are, in any country.

[–] missancap@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It’s true. Everything I don’t like is socialist. And referring to things that don’t work as socialist no matter the context is an excellent idea, I’ll be doing that from now on.

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would you come into a thread and enthusiastically declare yourself a dickhead weirdo

[–] missancap@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because I’m considering the audience. If a socialist is calling me a dickhead, then I’m probably right.

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Again, why would you say something like that in this thread/community/instance?

I'm not requesting you to answer. I'm requesting you to reconsider your approach to this scenario

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Just to piss people off and get them to waste their time basically

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

lol, an unironic ancap farquaad-point libertarian-alert

[–] MalarchoBidenism@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Ancaps when the
when the corporate conglomerate that owns their house demands they pay the property ~~tax~~ fee or else they go to private jail (it's not a state)

ancap-good

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a "right-wing extremist".

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Copium 🚬💨

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is such a thing as a "non-extremist" right-winger?

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No, they're all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others' properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.

[–] Jules@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Oh look a libertarian

[–] DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pipe down, bud. Us grownups have a class war to fight.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago

Will people ever learn to not fight among themselves?