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[–] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Neither the USSR nor the CCP ever tried to be communist. They used that banner to gather supporters and then seized all control of the government in an authoritarian takeover. Communism doesn't have "dear leaders" or usually even parties. Places like the USSR used their control over capital and wages and property ownership to control their populace entirely. We've never really seen an actual communist country because all the major efforts were sabotaged by people who wanted to be dictators.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism worked under Eastern aggression, Communist economic sanctions, Communist covert actions, and a propaganda apparatus far more widespread than anything from the West.

It worked better than Communism because it works better than Communism. LMFAO

[–] chay@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism worked under Eastern aggression

Right, the countries that invaded the USSR in its nascent years, constantly tried to assassinate leaders of progressive movements, couped most countries on Earth.

Communist economic sanctions, Communist covert actions

The projection lol

and a propaganda apparatus far more widespread than anything from the West.

As that joke goes, a CIA and KGB officer meet at a bar. The CIA officer says to the KGB officer "You've got a good propaganda machine!", the KGB officer replies "Well, yours is unbeatable."

The CIA agent responds with "What propaganda? In the West we don't have propaganda."

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Keep crying, tankie

Your shitty dictatorships failed because they were orders of magnitude more corrupt and dysfunctional than capitalism, and even more oppressive towards the general public.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the Tsar and the Chinese warlords and Battista and Imperial Japanese occupation where pillars of democracy before those countries' revolutions. Also like 90% of Chinese citizens are happy with their government, vs a sad 20% of Americans.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Odd how people in a country where it's illegal to not be happy with the government report being happy with the government

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Westerners hate their government so much that they cannot see beyond their own parochial worldview to even entertain the idea that some people would feel generally supportive of their government.

Those sneaky Orientals must be lying in order to trick is good, honest, non-perfidious enlightened westerners again.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easterners who hate their government disappear or learn to hide it. Westerners get to piss and moan.

[–] chay@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dictatorship is when bad country, democratic is when good western country

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean you cam take western out and your statement still works fine.

Fuck authoritarians of any side.

[–] chay@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any society is authoritarian, it depends who wields it.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That you have been brainwashed to only see communist country as authoritarian while the police in your democracy kills black people every day on the street.