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[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 78 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How are they saying "potentially" endangered someone's life? This is an "absolutely definitely" endangered her life story.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

May = just outside her home being arrested with a knife ->

When authorities later searched the Jeep Glauner had driven, they found methamphetamine and two bundles of rope.

This article is crazy if you read it. If the quality of his requests felt real, especially from a non government email address, these things must cone in shitty all the time.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This is the question the entire article avoids.

The article is written as if to try and get you to avoid asking it too.

“Why was no warrant required for the data?” “Why are police allowed to just ask for your personal info without a warrant”

What’s the point of warrants if they’re no longer needed? Like, warrants are supposed to be a crucial check on police powers, and here we are rendering them pointless.

I weep for the future.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because the telecommunications companies are eager to cooperate with the police. Since third-party doctrine applies, the privacy of the company, not the client, is considered, so Verizon happily consents to all police searches of phone records.

This has been discussed all the way up with SCOTUS (dominated by the Federalist Society at the time) so its legal.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh I’m not saying it’s illegal, just that it should be.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

On that we have no disagreement.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What’s the point of warrants if they’re boo longer needed?

If you give the police permission to conduct a search, they do not need a warrant.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But she didn’t give permission.

Why does Verizon have the authority to give it for her?

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That set it up so that the material handed over was in Verizon's possession (business records) and Verizon gave permission. The law is written so that they need a warrant for an actual wiretap (call contents) but not the metadata. Of course metadata is all you need to stalk the person, so that should need a warrant too.

It's fairly easy to avoid giving your cellular carrier your address (get the bills sent to a PO box} or even your name (buy a prepaid phone with cash). But it's harder to keep your call records or geolocation info away from them. :(

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It was my understanding that warrants were needed to force the acquisition of information, regardless of the type of information. Even call contents are allowed to be freely given to the police as long as you have legitimate access to it.

So Verizon has the ability to say “no” to the metadata too.

They just choose not to.

They choose to sell it rather than force the police to get a warrant. Perhaps they give it for free, I don’t know, but either way, they’re not forced to without a warrant.

[–] Grunt4019@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that the suspect met on the dating section of porn site xHamster

Not related to the issue at hand, but do people really use dating sections of porn sites?

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

mefhamphetamine is a hell of a drug

[–] JoShmoe@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Classic my dog ate my homework excuse.

[–] SevFTW@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

An armed dog ate my home work

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

An armed home ate my dog work.

[–] mangaskahn@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Armed work ate my home dog.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Oh no! Not the HOME dog!

shakes fist at work

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Really made me want a classic beef hot dog.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago