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    [–] Adonnen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I much prefer Windows to MacOS. The fact it is missing decent tiling is a nonstarter. It's too inflexible for my workflow.

    And sure, Windows can be maddeningly inconsistent, but what really destroys the experience is the constant ensh*ttification. I know a lot of people here hate everything about Windows, but for me, it only sucks because Microsoft designs it to suck.

    Not only are there ads and (some) first party lockin, I cannot trust they will continue offering updates, paywall feaures, restrict more functionality, or insert stuff like AI to mess up my workflow.

    I used to think reliability was just about stability and bugginess, but now I think it is about trust as well.

    [–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    macOS 15 will have tiling. At last lol

    [–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

    I'm searching for some document on my work PC and I see ads in my start menu, like what the fuck?

    Can somebody exploit that already so they get rid of it

    [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Lol, is this meme for real? Most mac users would never touch Linux. Like, yes, they are both based on Unix... But come on now, this is just intellectually dishonest.

    Most Mac users, in my experience, have no idea how to operate anything without an apple logo on it.

    [–] treadful@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Linux users are in the (well constructed) tent camp in the local park that Mac users ride their electric scooters past while desperately trying to avoid eye contact.

    Linux users are the homeowners who build and fix everything they can, but look down on people that don't find craftsmanship fun, claiming that they're saving money by doing the work themselves. Good on you for having that hobby, but if you don't enjoy it, spending time to learn those skills costs time that could be spent earning more money than you'd save. Paying an expert to do things you don't enjoy is usually the cheaper option. They can be found almost anywhere, similar to how Linux users use Apple or windows products from time to time.

    Mac users are suburb dwellers who view their way of life as what everyone should aspire to, ignorant to the downsides of sprawl and reliance on cars to go anywhere. Commute times suck, while walkable neighborhoods with public transit make most people healthier and happier. There's an important classist component, often bundled with racism, that underscores this ideal.

    Windows users are people that live in urban areas for work, trying to find reasonable rent or home prices as unchecked capitalism makes everything worse, but unaware why things suck. They get annoyed when people share their passion for handiwork, and dislike suburban folks for thinking they're superior rather than the downsides to suburban life. However, because most people live this way, and live this way for work, they usually don't have strong identities like suburbanites or handy homeowners.

    Homeless people are those who can't afford computers, overlapping with actual homeless people, and rural people are those that don't use computers more than they need to, socializing face to face and literally touching grass.

    [–] parascent@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Sorry but as a Linux user I found that Windows is better than macos. Macos doesn't even have proper window management.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Honestly MacOS is not great. At least with windows machines you can boot into a live system.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    And have actual control over the OS.

    Seriously, if Apple decides an app is too old, then it flat out doesn't work. No way to prevent updating either unless it is basically without internet.

    Linuxians like to complain about not being able to control Windows, but Mac is like a hundred times worse in that regard. Not to mention ads to all those Apple software on there.

    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Apple: "Sorry but your hardware seems to be out of date with our OS! Please buy another 3000 dollar laptop that's only worth 1000!"

    Me: "But it still runs?"

    Apple: "Does it, though?"

    Me: "Well not anymore... Thanks."

    Not to defend Apple, but doesn't windows 11 demand you buy new hardware for it to be installed? Something about a TPM?

    [–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    All three are shit. You can't change my mind.

    [–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They all suck in their own unique way! For me I can tolerate the way Linux sucks, and for others it's something else. But I think we can all agree that bitching about operating systems is great catharsis.

    [–] froop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Linux sucks for natural reasons. It's easy to tolerate because it's not trying to fuck with you, it's just a consequence of being a hodgepodge of software written by nerds for nerds. Windows sucks for malicious reasons. Microsoft is intentionally making it worse, to make more money, and that pisses me off. MacOS sucks because it assumes you're an idiot, and wants to protect itself from you. I may be an idiot, but that shouldn't stop me from breaking my own machine, god damnit!

    [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Mac won't let me do what I want, and offers no explanation and the forums are filled with people telling me why what I want is wrong.

    Windows has a way to do it, but it's hidden behind 17 menus from 8 eras if UI design, and it just won't shut the fuck up and listen to me. It has needless animations for everything, and trys so hard to be friendly that it's just infuriating.

    Linux let's me do the thing. It gives no directions on how to do the thing, and if I do it wrong, it doesn't even tell me that things are fucked until six months later when I discover I accidentally told it to write the kernel logs to the bootloader and everything is on fire.

    I prefer punching myself in the gonads to being called stupid or jerked around, so that's why I use Linux.

    [–] rockandsock@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

    The sycophants angrily questioning why I want to do something my own way on the equipment I paid for was the most bizarro world thing, I ended up getting rid of that Mac in large part because of that type of attitude on the forums.

    [–] shalva97@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Mac is worse than Windows

    [–] BReel@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    At least when I open up Mac OS, it doesn’t show me a pop up ad telling me how XBOX CONTROLLERS COME IN SO MANY COLORS NOW click here to buy.

    I’ve gotten that pop up the last 3 times I’ve booted up my windows machine.

    Windows is great for gaming. But it’s the only thing I turn that machine on for.

    [–] mortalic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Gaming on Linux is pretty legit now. I don't even boot into windows very often. In recent memory, only one AAA game didn't work out of the box for me that required booting into windows.

    [–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    No joke, most of my games work better on Linux because of proton than my Windows box. Such a nice experience.

    [–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Just disable everything I don't get this on my pc

    [–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

    Me either. Not that I'm advocating this BS practice!

    The very first thing you have to do when you start to use a new Windows or phone is to spend an hour or two disabling all the bullshit options.

    [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    MacOS is still Unix under the hood, and has been since they adapted NeXTSTEP.

    Maybe it's just because I'm fundamentally more of a console user than a windowing-system user, but to me a Unix-based OS is always going to be a winner compared to Windows.

    But, if you want to laugh at OSes, laugh at classic MacOS, where everything would grind to a halt if you clicked and held the mouse button.

    [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    This. I'm not sure why more people don't know this, but macOS is actually UNIX certified. Linux isn't.

    [–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

    Linux isn't Unix, it's Unix-like