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Donald Trump has not been accused of paying for sex, but several supporters protesting outside of his trial on Monday wanted to make it clear that they have. It seems the crowds that come out to protest the persecution of the former president are getting smaller, and weirder

Today, however, the crowd had thinned to a handful of true believers and true characters – those who don’t leave their house without a giant flag, a bullhorn, and an offensive T-shirt they made themselves.

It’s not only that the crowds are getting smaller, it’s that they are getting significantly weirder.

Of the people willing to step up to a microphone outside the courthouse and defend Mr Trump for allegedly paying off a porn star to hide his alleged affair from prospective voters, two offered something of a wild defence: that they opposed the charges because they too had paid for sex on more than one occasion, and assumed most men had done the same

It didn’t matter to them that Mr Trump is not being accused of paying for sex, but rather accused of having embarked on several extra-marital affairs and falsifying business records over payments made to hide those affairs from the voting public in 2016.

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[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes - the party of the Christian church isn’t it? 😂

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Nonsense. In Christ's church you don't pay for sex. You just molest an alter boy, as God intended.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Well, let’s legalize prostitution. Regulate it, tax it, legitimize it.

Conservatives: hell no, we can’t have that depravity and vice. We need to punish women for sex outside of marriage. Oh, yeah…and no abortions for them either. (Unless it’s my daughter or mistress)

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It makes my head hurt how ridiculous conservatives are and how they spin things. They’re only making their lives harder. Imagine the amount of tax revenue that could be collected from legalizing prostitution.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Their only consistency is inconsistency.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Let's say it together: they don't actually care about fiscal responsibility.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's obvious that they don't because they only ever work one variable (spending) of the fucking equation:

spending - income = deficit

Even if you stop all of your spending entirely, you'll remain in debt forever if you never have any income, so it's a losing way to fix the problem, but that won't stop them or their idiot voters from insisting upon it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

It's not a homogenous group. You've absolutely got libertarians on one end, wanting to dissolve the state and legalize a market for children as sexual commodities on one end. And then you've got the Holy Rollers on the order end, who think coffee and cigarettes need to be next on the chopping block.

They formed an alliance of convenience to crush the labor movement. But now they are very awkward bedfellows.

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If we are going to make it illegal, we really need to flip the laws and make it illegal to hire one. This would give those in the business a legal way of asking for help.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean. Soliciting a prostitute is already illegal in most states.

[–] rasmus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Well in Sweden it's legal to sell but illegal to buy

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sex work is work. And if it's work, there are customers.

There's probably a long list of reasons to criticize these Trump supporters, including not understanding what this case in particular is about, but being customers of sex work ain't it.

Demonizing customers of sex work maintains the taboo and hurts the movement to legitimize, legalize, regulate, and provide normal employment benefits to sex work.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives love to hate on sex workers, particularly when they are migrants or POC or (God help us all) LGBT.

Demonizing customers of sex work maintains the taboo and hurts the movemen

The prevailing view of Republicans in this moment is that Stormy Daniels is trying to extort Trump for more money and using the NY Southern District as leverage.

Far from demonizing customers, this view holds the client up as a victim and the sex worker as some kind of intrusive parasite who has failed to know her place.

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Totally agree with you. But this:

this view holds the client up as a victim and the sex worker as some kind of intrusive parasite who has failed to know her place.

Is because their golden god can do no wrong. That every law he broke was somehow not his fault, and clearly the fault of the accuser or corrupt prosecutors. They will shift the focus away from an argument they can't win, campaign funds being used for non-campaign purposes, to anything they can get the base whipped up about.

But my complaint isn't even about that. My problem is that this article demonizes these Trump supporters for one wrong reason. That characterizing customers of sex work as weirdos for admitting it, regardless of their presidential candidate of choice, hurts the effort to legitimize sex work. There's a lot of fish in the barrel of criticism for this group, no need for the author and OP to support a conservative anti-sex work narrative at the same time.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Is because their golden god can do no wrong.

I think its a more broad understanding of sex workers as disposable playthings.

My problem is that this article demonizes these Trump supporters for one wrong reason. That characterizing customers of sex work as weirdos for admitting it, regardless of their presidential candidate of choice, hurts the effort to legitimize sex work.

There's a general generic insult in modern media that boils down to "you're fat and ugly and nobody wants to fuck you". And the anti-Trumpers latch on to people visiting sex workers as an opportunity to hurl out this age-old insult. If this was an article about a movie star or popular musician admitting to patroning sex workers, I doubt the criticisms would match.