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Donald Trump Photo Without Ear Bandage Raises Eyebrows (www.newsweek.com)
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Might be best for mods to lock this post at this point (is that a thing on Lemmy?) because this story is basically wrapped. The FBI says a bullet caused some ear damage. Maybe it was bullet shrapnel from a ricochet or something like that, but later photos show the teleprompters in-tact so it wasn't shards of glass from those. Trump's usage of the bandage (and the assassination attempt) as symbols and political tools has been discussed at length and I don't think conspiratorial thinking beyond that is very productive. Pete Souza took his own account down after getting a lot of harassment, so no further conspiracies are needed regarding X-formerly-known-as-Twitter at this time.

A photo of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump taken on Saturday without his ear bandage has sparked a wave of speculation.

The image, taken by Alex Brandon of the Associated Press on July 27 and shared by photojournalist Pete Souza on X, formerly Twitter, shows Trump walking up an airplane staircase with an apparently fully healed ear wound just weeks after he was shot with a high-powered rifle.

Souza, known for his tenure as the chief official White House photographer for Presidents Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama, posted Brandon's photo on his now-deactivated X account on Saturday, writing, "AP photo this morning. Look closely at his ear that was 'hit' by a bullet from an AR-15 assault rifle."

Souza's profile, @PeteSouza, which had over 200,000 followers, now reads, "This account doesn't exist, try searching for another," implying that he has deleted or deactivated it. If he had been banned, it would read, "Account suspended. X suspends accounts which violate the X rules."

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[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

There's just no fucking way his ear was hit by .223 (let alone the hotter 5.56) and there's still an ear left.

There would be a hole and massive damage, at least. Most likely just a twisted stump.

It's much more likely that someone scratched it with their fingernail in the chaos and it just bleed a lot because: adrenaline of being shot at, adrenaline of a rally, how high blood pressure is in the ear, and how blood thinners making even a small scratch look like a murder scene.

If he'd really have been shot there'd never have been a bandage and trump wouldn't go anywhere without 15 doctors in tow to explain how brave and strong he is to survive a gunshot wound.

[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I think you overestimate the size and power of a 5.56 round. Much of the destructive force comes from speed and the area it hits - such as the chest or hips. Bones can cause it to ricochet and spin, causing cavitation and greater destruction.

They can leave a tiny entrance wound. With how thin the ear is, it's unlikely to have left an exit wound any larger than the entrance. It may have even hit the tip of the ear.

Either way, I think there would still be a visible wound unless it just nicked the tip of the ear. The bleeding may be due to blood thinners or something, considering his cardiovascular health.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

More than likely it was a slight nick / graze. Not actual full on ear contact.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Much of the destructive force comes from speed

You should've stopped there.

If it had hit his ear, it would have ripped a chunk of the ear off, not just caused a scratch that was unnoticeable days later. This isn't the first time he's been seen without a bandage. He was photographed like a day later and it was fine.

I think there would still be a visible wound unless it just nicked the tip of the ear

You're missing the point.

The bullet "nicking" his ear isn't possible because (due to speed) it would have ripped a chunk off.

[–] CM400@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The bullet "nicking" his ear isn't possible because (due to speed) it would have ripped a chunk off.

Please demonstrate this. If a paper target can get hit by these rounds every day in target practice and not get blown to pieces, why would an ear (especially if the ear was only “nicked” by the bullet) be any different?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Compare the size of the whole to the bullet

The holes is always bigger, and an ear has much more tear resistance than an ear. But Trump doesn't even have a bullet sized hole in his ear.

He has literally zero visible wounds...

There's not even a "nick"

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

In case it gets taken down completely:

There have been re-creations on YouTube with ballistics gel and pig ears showing what happens to an ear shot by an AR-15 round, I'm not going to lay judgement, just watch the video:

Ballistics gel (language):

https://youtu.be/FsvJzfXZI18#t=6m59s

Pig ears:

https://youtu.be/zfATfPIpDc4#t=4m19s

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

THANK YOU! Jesus folks, if you don't have experience with shooting AR-15 loads, just stop, admit you're not really sure.

Also, I'm thinking a lot of people are imaging the big, bad AR as shooting monster bullets. (That's a joke pic BTW.) ARs are illegal to hunt with in some states because they're not deadly enough to produce a clean kill. It's a military round meant to be incapacitating and lightweight.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

You do realize you can get an AR in 22LR, 9MM, 5.56 NATO etc.. right?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's pictures of right after that show his ear...

https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2024/07/14/USAT/74396917007-20240713-t-235354-z-1577583182-rc-2-mu-8-aisn-4-v-rtrmadp-3-usaelectiontrump.JPG?width=1320&height=882&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

No bullet wound. Just what seems like an insane amount of blood... If you've never seen an excited elderly person on blood thinners get the smallest scratch imaginable.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As an excited elderly person on blood thinners, I absolutely get that. "Hey! Where'd all this blood come from! Oh, wait!"

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My dad carried one of those little tubes of super glue...

Bandaids were a waste of time, if he got a cut on his hand he'd just immediately glue it shut.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bro... my grandmother super glued her earlobe when something caught her earring and literally ripped off of her ear. At that moment, I realized my grandmother was a bad ass woman.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At minimum he was struck by glass. His reaction was instantaneous with the shots and clearly he was reacting to being hit in the ear. It could have just been reacting to a close fly by at his ear, except the chances of him then being injured and bleeding from the same ear from an agent are slim to none. But however he was injured, it clearly wasn't much of an injury regardless.

It would be kind of a moot point as he WAS shot at and injured, and a bystander and the shooter were both killed. Those are the important facts here. But then Trump had to throw a fit over the FBI saying they weren't sure he'd actually been struck by a bullet or by shrapnel. He made such a stink out of it that now that he was clearly barely injured, it just makes him look silly and egotistical (go figure!) for so vehemently insisting he was hit with a bullet.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

We could talk about if JD fucked a couch if you want....