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[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Someone explain this to me? Hamas is a terrorist group the controls the Palestinians in Gaza. They are not representive of most Palestinians. So this feels like an easy, "yes I condemn Hamas,but also the Palestinian people are being screwed by the Israeli government"

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The meme is that westerners care more that that the people that are seeing their kids murdered condemn the only (while very imperfect) group that is helping them instead of focusing on the fact that kids are being murdered.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 11 months ago

the only (while very imperfect) group that is helping them

This is very important to ignore if you don't want to be inconvenienced by the tremendous and unnecessary suffering that's happening.

[–] Deykun@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most people don't have an issue with it. But starting each interview with a question: "Do you condemn Al-Qaeda?" is sinister. It is not a good faith question.

If you are asked this question each time you want to speak about atrocities committed against civilians and have to proclaim that you do not in fact support terrorists, you have the right to be offended. Especially when the person asking you that question cannot condemn cutting off water to civilians.

After 9/11, thousands of Arabs living peacefully in the US were asked to condemn Al-Qaeda, which they did because who wouldn't? That condemnation and support was used to justify attacking Iraq - the country where Al-Qaeda was not located in, and resulted in the death of a million people there. Imagine being an American Iraqi supporting the US's right to "defend itself" and seeing your family in Iraq and their children being killed.

There is a level of analogy here where a person with relatives in Gaza is asked by interviewers that question while trying to advocate to not cut water or bomb one of the most densely populated places in the region.

You have the right to be offended if people start asking you to condemn segregation, Nazism, or bigotry when you never claimed that you don't have an issue with those things. Especially when the person asking you is using it as a tactic while you are trying to alarm about human rights being violated, and civilians / children being hurt.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

America is a white supremacist nation, if you click that option you won't be able to get your flight. In any civilized nation such an option would be illegal (as it's not their fucking business) but because they're a shithole country with no oversight, they get to fuck people over their views.

[–] specialdealer@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

What are you talking about, everything on the internet is real. It's not like anyone is going to go outside to check.