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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

Incels at least is a natural consequence of the difference between society's expectations, the needs of an individual, and generally the lack of support and or direct toxicity towards men who need help and emotional support men require as humans.

That one is a societal problem around isolating people away from affection.

The rest I have no freaking clue how one becomes a Nazi in 2024.

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Some people have problems in their life and it is convenient to believe they are do to an outgroup. You mention knowledge against it but these people live their lives and insert their instilled prejudices to explain the flaws, making them have (fake) first hand proof of their beliefs.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"so much knowledge against it"? We live in a n overwhelming ocean of information, what seems obvious to many people may be completely unheard of in other areas, we're not all getting our information from the same sources. Or some people have become indoctrinated by other groups and have become basically inoculated against "wokeism". Plato's allegory of the cave is just as relevant today as it was in his time (if not more so). There are people spending their whole lives looking at shadow puppets dancing on the wall, thinking that that's reality. Who knows, maybe it's us, but the point is, even though we're awash in information, ignorance is alive and well.

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[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As someone who's had several long debates with a neonazi on discord, it usually boils down to them saying "Goldbloom controls you, all your arguments are therefore nullified"

Their aptitude for dismissing information is amazing

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which is why we don't debate them, and avoid giving them a public platform!

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

After we had our fun with them we banned them. We still laugh about it to this day

[–] aredditimmigrant@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

It's the same as it's always been. We gravitate towards what we feel.

The internet has just allowed certain groups who wmight be ashamed to announce their true feelings to say the quiet part out loud anonymously. This gets the next generation to not see a problem with it and go from there.

As an example. Take an impressionable young boy (14-18), he has trouble getting dates, doesn't have a great home life. Little bit of a loner. Before the internet, hed have to figure out a purpose. Maybe he'd start going to a gym or hitting the books harder to be smarter or something.... With the Internet he's able to find "friends", he finds a community, that community may lead him down dark paths.... Where some in better living situations may say "this is too much" and walk away, he doesn't have anything to walk to... So he gets more and more indoctrinated into the cause.

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