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Latest KDE on debian 12 (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Dust0741@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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how would i go about getting the latest kde onto debian 12? is it worth it even?

EDIT: fine I wont try lmao

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[–] sgharms@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey dust, I have been using linux for about 24 years ago and I’m gonna explain it to you straight here.

debian is rock solid. It’s great for servers. It’s also great for laptops: That is laptops where you don’t really care about having anything bleeding edge. I need tmux, a few compilers, vim, and a browser. Debian!

I’ve got a kid and get at best 45 minutes per week to code on side projects. My system can never be broken. I use Debian on my Linux laptop and my droplet server. No surprises.

But if you want to occasionally get a brand new desktop environment hot off the presses, Debian‘s gonna work against you. I think Ubuntu mint is great.

Good luck

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Mint? No. Also rock solid but not of the bleeding edge.

Arch and NixOS is where it's at if you want bleeding edge.

Other than that sgharms is completely right, OP.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been running NixoOS for about a year now

NixOS is definitely hit or miss on bleeding edge. The archive is absolutely massive but it is in no way universally up to date.

They just got Wayland in in the last update.

It needs more maintainers and it's a royal pain in the ass to fix anything if it's actually broken.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yah, I installed it a couple weeks ago, it was on Plasma 5.27 or something almost as old, and installing strange software or drivers is such a pain in the ass. Lasted a couple days, like I usually do when I try NixOS every few months. Ah, well.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

24.05 brought plasma 6, The problem is, Wayland made a whole bunch of my stuff no longer work updates for those packages are slow to make it through Nix.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Arch and NixOS is where it’s at if you want bleeding edge.

openSUSE Tumbleweed if you want bleeding edge also

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Yep... Mint is always following the current LTE version of Ubuntu, usually behind them by a couple months, which is going to be a few months to a year behind on most packages at the time of release, and will be another two years before getting a new feature update

Anything not system level (such as the DE), if you want the latest, Flatpak. Anything else, your options are to wait a few years, try to shoehorn it in yourself and deal with the dependency hell, or hop to a distro that uses the version you want.

Even the latest version of Mint that just released about a month ago doesn't have KDE 6 yet, and it'll probably be two years before it's available. Which is why I'm thinking of switching to Fedora for a while.

[–] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 months ago

It's technically possible to install the KDE 6 packages from experimental onto bookworm, but it is far from ready and will probably (eventually) break your system.

Debian 12 "bookworm" will never get KDE 6. KDE 6 will be first added in Debian 13 "trixie".

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

you don't if it's not in sid yet it's not even worth it to try. if you want kde6 before then your best bet is try kde neon but that also has down sides and is base on ubuntu not debian.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 6 points 3 months ago
  1. Pain, torture, and screaming as your system slowly burns.
  2. No, definitely not.
[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

You might be able to run the latest KDE or gnome in a distrobox podman or docker container:

https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox/blob/main/docs/posts/run_latest_gnome_kde_on_distrobox.md

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

it's Debian "latest" doesn't even enter the conversation (without a lot of garbage and pain, or flatpak)

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

Compile the entire thing from source, manually install it in /opt, manually satisfy all its dependencies and create necessary simlinks and PATH variables.

And no.

[–] hjjanger@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Dust0741 my apologies. As others rightly pointed out I didn't answer appropriately and deleted the postt.. You won't be able to get the latest kde on Debian. You could look at Sid or Testing but I don't know if they ship that. I dont use Sid or Testing so I couldn't help you if they do.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Maybe try getting it running in a container. Just shutdown your current display manager and then create a Fedora container with everything passed though. Theoretically it should work but I've never tried. There might be a permissions issue.