this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
104 points (97.3% liked)

Memes

45414 readers
762 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 23 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The worst hot take of this nature I've personally heard so far, in Canada: "Fuck man this customer service job pays me peanuts when I'm busting my ass! I tell ya, it's those damn Indian immigrants saturating the service industry and driving the wages down!"

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Aren't most of the Indian customer service workers in India though? Nothing to do with immigration

[–] peanutdust@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Worker saturation does reduce the power of the workers. A small town strike is a huge deal, it can shut the business down with nobody around to easily replace them. As opposed to place they can be easily replaced with low cost workers, the conditions will slowly move towards slavery with every replacement.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Years upon years of pro-capitalist propaganda is a helluva drug.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I luckily don't hear that much. I mostly hear fellow wage slaves making barely enough to slowly die repeat bullshit news headlines like "no one wants to work anymore" all the while working harder and harder for less and less. It's incredibly depressing.

[–] SirBucksworth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

„1% of people hoarding 99% of wealth in the world, and most of them have the same skin color and religion like me? It has to be the fault of people with a different skin color and/or religion that I’m not getting richer!“

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

“Have we considered blaming the people who are reviving old religions for our society’s moral failing instead of acknowledging that the political leaders of my country share my religion

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Skin color: capitalism

Religion: money

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Billionaires are a minority.. something like 1% of the 1% of people

[–] am0@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago

I think prefer my memes to be generally funny, instead of angry and political

[–] Designate6361@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Both... Both is good?

[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get that argument on paper but I think it's more of the government's doing. Hear me out first, we could live off the grid, build our own house, our own farms, never work for a job, but the government stops us, they are the weapons of the banks and rich who enforce authority.

They gave the housing market and land to the banks. I understand many blame minorities for taking our jobs, when in reality, capitalists just hire whoever works for cheaper, and yes, that's true. But if wasn't for government regulations, more jobs could exist for everyone, or you could live off the grid.

I like to cite how many despise healthcare being tied to your job, but government involvement caused that in the first place.

We live under corporatism/fascism. Yes, the rich run everything, but they have the government be the ones to control us. You must first get through the pawns if you want the king.

[–] neptune@dmv.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think it's building codes keeping people in poverty??

[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's try to elaborate more.

We live under corporatism where the rich have bought out everything. The banks own the land. Big Pharma runs the medical industry. And the military industrial complex runs NATO and such. We call this money lobbying.

It doesn't just affect politicians, even agencies and armies. The FDA and CDC for instance are owned by big pharma. Big pharma lobbies to these agencies to create more regulations, yet, these regulations the agencies make never seem to hurt the big guy, only the smaller companies starting up. They want to kill the competition. That's why medicine and insulin can be so expensive.

Banks like JP Morgan financed the war on terror. We came into the middle east to help their people rebuild, instead, we expanded JP Morgans banks, and drew out the war to finance them better, among many other terrible things.

There could be tons of jobs right now, but people lobby to have regulations crush the smaller guys so few monopolies have power. The government enables the rich.

So, when someone is in poverty, let's ask why from every angle possible. Why can't they have a house? Credit scores, banks owning everything, and blackrock eating up the housing market. Why can't they get a job? Not enough jobs available. Why can't they find food and temporary place to stay? Inflation, which is the silent tax making food more scarce, and no one wanting to give the poor a place to stay and help them get off their feet and become independent.

When you see all of these things, you realize that the powers that be don't want us to be self sufficient and independent from them. I don't see it as just "housing codes." More as government control. Think of the banks as the king, and the government as it's military.

[–] neptune@dmv.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I understand oligarchy and also corporate capture. Those things are bad.

What does that have to do with friends and neighbors blaming minorities?

[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I've talked with socialists before. They had interesting reasons to justify socialism. They talk about how minorities come over the boarder and steal jobs, but claim that it's because the rich hires who works for cheaper, that's why this happens as minorities will work for cheaper. At first, I thought it was an unbeatable argument. But, if it wasn't for such government regulations, more jobs and competition would be available for these people. And if things didn't work out for people, they should just be able to homestead like what people once did.

Some socialists believe that late capitalism has caused our recessions. They see value in work, but not the dollar. My argument is that if it wasn't for the FED causing inflation, things wouldn't be so bad. Woodrow Wilson created a centralized bank, worse thing possible. And we had presidents ban the gold standard to top it all off, that's why money feels useless. If it was a finite currency (like bitcoin aims to be) then I see great value in it.

Honesty, I'd consider myself to be libertarian at the level of federal government. But less libertarian and more constitutionalist the closer to home it gets. I don't necessarily support government, but definitely governance if so to speak.

People like Ted K were definitely smart. He believed we should go back to the Neolithic era in the sense where we have our small local communities with direct democracy. In terms of freedom, and maybe happiness, that's the best option.

[–] Decompose@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean blame it on illegal migrants working without paying "their share" in taxes like everyone else?

Dude... the communists on Lemmy are hilarious!

[–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Yes let's blame this on the illegal migrants instead of the businesses that create the problem. Easier to hate illegals than the "financially smart" business owner that's fucking you over and breaking the law, amirite guys?

[–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Except your logic falls apart pretty quickly.

You are choosing to blame people who are getting exploited. Either firstly they are being hired under the table to do this work under the market rate. Wouldn't this be the fault of the employer then. They are hiring such workers who are also not paying "their share". Conservatives are so quick to point at illegal immigrants as the problem but rarely the people who you know actually pay them to make living in this country possible for them.

Now what if they were stealing someone's identity to work a normal job? Its not right but identity theft is a large problem because we Americans for some fucking reason refuse to establish a national ID system. Where there are safeguards and ways to fix this but nah we are stuck with Social security numbers, which were designed merely for Social security for those above the age of 65 to claim their benefits but then it was misused by the IRS (which can we seen as fair since its a public entity in government) but then it was then abused by private organizations like banks and employers. Side tangent over, if an illegal immigrant did this they would then be paying "their share" of taxes. So your complaint is a nothing burger.

If we had an illegal immigration problem it is because there is a clear market for people who provide for them and it ain't only the democrats. Republican's Corpo rights focus is all about this and letting corps do whatever the fuck they want to do but focus on the suffering of others is their promise to their dimwitted voters (who vote primarily for abortion bans and immigration problems).

[–] TheMemorius@postit.quantentoast.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Carion@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Where is my meme status quo flavored.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 year ago

When people have lived their whole lives marinating in anti-communist propaganda, they're ideologically unable to reach the obvious conclusions and instead have to substitute shit like this or lizard people conspiracy theories.