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[–] VanillaBean@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Because he IS too old. Biden did the right thing. Selflessly put the country before himself and listened to his party. I don't think Trump would ever have enough morals or integrity to do that in a million years unfortunately. So we'll have to beat the old loon and his band of circus freaks at the polls, again.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden was never supposed to run for a second term, and then dragged his feet until the very last minute. The selfless thing would’ve been to step aside for someone younger before the race began

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, he fucked over everyone by participating in the primaries.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

agreed, never should have tried for the second bite.

however... dems now have an opportunity to own the news cycle from here until the election. if they do even a halfway decent job, we start trending from "narrow loss" -> "political landslide".

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think all the messaging in the world can fix the reality that Biden hasn't improved material conditions of the people who voted for him in 2020, or even gone to the mat fighting for them.

The only things he's really gone around congress or the SCOTUS for is to deny more asylum seekers and give more weapons to Israel and Ukraine.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

He absolutely has. We're getting public transit built out. Caps on overdraft fees. Capped the price of insulin. Invalidated most non-compete clauses. Oh, and he didn't encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

Oh, and he didn't get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

I'd also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

That's just what I can name of the top of my head. He was a better president than Obama.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We’re getting public transit built out

Nothing around me except wider highways, nor anyone I know. Unless the brightline is part of that, which is nice, but doesn't compete with airfare and driving.

Caps on overdraft fees

lmao just get rid of them, people who have no money don't need less penalties, they need no penalties. There is not a "medium overdraft fees" constituency who will vote against the dems if they get rid of overdraft fees.

Capped the price of insulin

See previous response. If you have the power to cap it, you have the power to make it free.

he didn’t encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

Stop trying to make trump's army of divorced Jet Ski dealers sound cool. Most Americans hate congress and Mike Pence.

Oh, and he didn’t get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

He literally ended the covid protections, told people not to wear masks, and a bunch of Americans did receive long-term injury or death from covid before they stopped counting.

I’d also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

Because of our actions, Ukraine will never be safe within our lifetimes. Every bomb we send is a bad day for someone, statistically mostly civilians. Any stance except peace as soon as possible demonstrates that you care less about the lives of the actual people living in Ukraine than you do supporting imperialism.

We could have had peace with similar terms to what we can get now two years ago, and millions would be alive and in their homes right now. But instead we decided to fight Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.

He was a better president than Obama.

The patron saint of drones, who halved black wealth to bail out the banks? The deporter-in-chief who paved the way for Trump? That's not the flex you think it is.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“The first party to retire its 80-year old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election.”

— Nikki Haley, in January.

BTW, I think it would be good for Dems to always call Trump 80. It will be a good irritation for Republicans

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've been getting down voted for saying it for a year...

But yeah, trump doesn't stand a fucking chance now. Also, this is probably the only way to get people excited about Kamala.

2028 better be a real primary or we just kicked the can down the road.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You know it will probably be either the Harris reelection effort, or no election due to complications from Trumpitis

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Harris against Trump Jr. and they will claim Harris is too old.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Damn, I just found out Kamala is almost 60....

I don't know why I thought Biden would have picked someone young enough to be president after him.

Should have gotten one of the "kids" in their 40s.

We need to stop running elderly people, if Biden had done two and she did two after, she'd be in her 70s too

We're stuck in this situation where we demand "experience" but the people holding the spots that count for "experience" are decades past retirement age.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even if she would serve two terms in a row, she would still only be 67 by the time shes finished, so thats still way younger than what Trump or Biden have been during their terms.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Right.

But apparently Biden always intended to run twice, making her 71 at the end of her second term....

But 67 is still too old for lots of people. And above everything thing else the presidency is a popularity contest.

Younger candidates like Obama and Bill get more votes, which carries down ballot races, and let's us get the House and Senate so the president can get shit done.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Almost 60 is fine. She's still got the majority of her mental faculties that she had at her peak. Low chance of her just randomly kicking over at any given time unlike the two candidates we had in this election until yesterday.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Almost 60 is fine.

It is.

But if Biden did a second term, she'd be 64.

And 72 at the end of her two terms.

Which is why I'm saying Biden should have picked a you Obama type who's a decade younger for VP.

Instead of someone who would be in their 70s if everything went to plan.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Gotta keep the pressure up.

Make her promise to an open and fair 2028 primary before the 2024 election.

None of this wishwashy shit where everyone close to Biden promise it's a one turn thing, but the candidate doesn't understand how shitty of a candidate they are.

Kamala's gonna win because she's not trump. Not because she's what Dem voters want.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Harris still has a lot of animosity towards her from her time as a prosecutor, but I'm thinking she's at least a better candidate than biden. The expected republican attacks of "she's black" and "she's a woman" probably won't sway anyone as much as "Joe Biden personally shoots Palestinian kids."

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

She'll be fine.

Moderates like her already, and as someone who's had to vote Hillary and Joe in the last two elections...

It's easier for progressives to hold their nose when they have the benefit of the doubt about how bad the candidate is.

We're fucking fighting fascism bro, her being a DA might even be a good thing if she's actually down to fight fascists. Don't forget before McCarthyism we had capitalists allying with communists to fight fascism.

Hell, if she pulls a "I know the system, I know it needs fixed, and I look forward to being president so it can be fixed" would guarantee she's the next prez.

It doesn't take much, we'rre just coming off the two worst Dem candidates in modern history, and still got a trump hangover from his term. So Kamala would have to really fuck shit up to lose.