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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I don't want to sound like an incel, and I like eating vag/salad as much as the next guy, but imagine this image with the genders reversed

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree that it would look quite different with the genders reversed. However, gender equality is not like mathematical equality, where every situation needs to be reversible.

Women have traditionally been less sex-positive and less dominant, which many consider indicators of a lack of true gender equality, so a progressive community will celebrate a reversal of that.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes i imagined it, very nice. Whats the next step?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I love you and I'm saving this.

[–] Franklin@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

IMO either party doing this is fine as long as it's discussed and within the comfort bounds of the people in the relationship.

I think the problem is an expectation when there has been no discussion about whether or not it's within someone's limits.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I have no issue with oral sex between consenting adults. But this meme would not be as well received if the genders were reversed. It's hard to even imagine someone posting "always be there for your man in a time of crisis" with the woman going down on the guy.

[–] Franklin@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't really mind it the other way around as long as there's no implied use of force or manipulation.

[–] Absolutemehperson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Feel free to reverse the genders & post this on twitter then. Getting banned from the internet speedrun any%

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Twitter = the internet

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I believe "consenting" is key here.

The reason why it's taboo if the genders were reversed is because there is a long and well documented history of non-consent when genders are reversed.

Was there non-consent where gals are forcing guys? Very likely. However what evidence I've seen suggests this is dwarfed by guys forcing gals.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, I suppose if you ignore every single bit of the last few hundred years worth of context, it would be hard to understand why people might be ok with this, but not necessarily the reverse.

Fortunately that context is available to you, so what I have trouble understanding is why you're not accounting for that. Maybe you could elaborate, or perhaps do some perspective taking on why historically oppressed groups have certain sensitivities that privileged groups do not have. You might even come to realize that treating everyone exactly the same after not doing so for a very long time doesn't come across as terribly fair. Because, you know, it isn't.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

You've conceded my point that it would be insensitive if we reversed the genders. So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.

And here I'm going to respectfully disagree. I do not agree with your claim that being a part of a more historically oppressed group comes with a different set of standards for behavior. This is like saying its fine for obese people to make fun of skinny people--but not vice versa--because the obese people have more often been marginalized in society. We wouldn't accept that reasoning in the case of body type and we also shouldn't accept it in the case of gender.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

What would be the issue then? 2 consenting people can show each other what they want sexually, no matter the gender

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing wrong with a consenting partner

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, but not quite the point I was making

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I would be there for my lady...

If i had one!

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Panel 3: titty eye contact, he accepts his fate lol

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aren't memes supposed to be funny? This just looks like a shitty Tumblr post.

[–] Thcgrasscity@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Haha 450 up 55 down, so 8 times as many people think its funny then dont.

Haha 3 times as many people dislike this comment

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait, we can see the upvote / downvote ratio?

Sync for Lemmy does shows it

[–] HeneryHawk@thelemmy.club 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some apps show it. Jebroa does, for example

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Jebroa sounds like a really muscular type of mouse lol

Spoiler

A bit like the muscular mouse in demon slayer

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What the hell is wrong with people in this comment section? yeah if the genders were reversed blah blah blah be pragmatic and enjoy that pussy ffs.

My blocklist has grown by leaps and bounds though, so there's that.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Whatever scant humor this comic possessed, has been irretrievably destroyed by the pedants in the comments.

[–] FatTony@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

More importantly. Does that guy have a beard or is that just part of his hair?

[–] iqwertyasdf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I also love being there for my girlfriend to tie her shoe laces!

[–] Absolutemehperson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

As long as the shoes don't smell...

[–] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago
[–] BadPoopSmell@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

I think I have to poop

[–] erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

While we're on the topic. Everybody needs to read a book about pleasuring their partners.

She comes first

Her guide to going down

I'm sure you can get more focused content for your particular situation if you looked for it, but don't assume you know what You're doing. Read and make the world a better place.

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