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[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Crowder's a piece of shit who doesn't even practice what he preaches.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

He does practice being an asshole.

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Sure, I'll play this game.

The premise of the convincing is loaded. No one deserves shit. Steven Crowder made the format famous and therefore he is attributed to it.

Whether or not the person is a piece of shit is irrelevant and ad hominem. If Hitler said 1 + 1 = 2, Hitler is right. You don't get to deny that just because you hate the person. Shitty people can make correct statements and they can achieve things. Doesn't matter which name we apply to it. We must be able to argue on the merits of the statement or format without sorting to personal feelings on the person, lest you become the one who is intolerant.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not sure what any of this has to do with the fact that some people would prefer not to see this shithead's face. He's probably wrong about most things but that's not really what this meme is about. This meme is about whether we want to see his face constantly or not. Many would prefer not to see it.

What this meme is not about? Saying Hitler is wrong because he's Hitler...

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago

This meme is about whether we want to see his face constantly or not. Many would prefer not to see it.

That's not the premise I drew from what this post is about. It's not a question of what we prefer to see. It's a question of if he deserves the meme format. But I guess we can simply disagree on that point.

Even if it's a question of preference, I would still argue the same. We can't just live our lives purely through our preferences. We have to face reality of how things are. And Crowder is the face of the meme, whether we like it or not. He is the one attributed to this meme, and will continue to be regardless of preference.

[–] slice1@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Main problem is: Steven Crowder did not make the meme. People made a meme out of him. There was no "format" - he wanted to be edgy and debate. Then, he became a meme. Nothing to take from, nor attribute to him.

However, I much prefer Calvin and never want to see anything related to Steven Crowder. And what was that about Hitler? ..that...just...wow ...

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

We must be able to argue on the merits of the statement or format without sorting to personal feelings on the person, lest you become the one who is intolerant.

Why not have personal feelings about someone that sucks? We're not in a court of law deciding on whether someone should go to prison FFS. We're on a silly website deciding whether a dumb meme is entertaining or not. If a meme is associated with a shit person which results in bad feelings, those feelings negatively impact the entertainment value of the meme.

Hitler made paintings. Not wanting to hang a painting made by Hitler it your house doesn't mean someone thinks all paintings suck. It just means they think Hitler sucks and would prefer not to be reminded of the shit Hitler did every time they walk into the living room. You're saying that people should somehow forget that Hitler made those paintings and enjoy them for the paintings themselves and forget about the person that made them. But that's just not how brains work, dude. People do think of the person who made the art when forming opinions about something that's so very subjective.

[–] AaronMaria@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What correct statement are you even talking about how is that hypothetical relevant at all? Is a format a fact now?

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

The correct statement is that he popularized this format of "change my mind." Therefore, the attribution goes to him.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank fuck there's someone on this website that still has brains.

The way most people around here operate Good = smart and bad = dumb.

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that's the way most people operate anywhere, not just this website.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I feel like it's the chronically online who have it worse.

[–] cleverusername@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't know who the is; should I?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

He's a famous alt-right dipshit who deserves to be ignored.

[–] Beaphe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Famousᵗᵐ

[–] frontporchtreat@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

it's either Calvin or hobbes.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Steven Crowder Does Not Deserve a Meme Format" deserves a meme format!

[–] boCash@lemmy.blugatch.tube 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Milhouse, you're still not a meme no matter how recursive it gets.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is the blue checkmark about?

[–] kirby@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's just their profile picture on here

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Ah lol didn't know you could get those

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Please share the template

I'd love to use it

[–] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] snrkl@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

What font did you use?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No problem, I passed out and just got the message.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

No worries, so did I

[–] Dangdoggo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I mean the image is staunch black and white it would be so easy to just white out the text...

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not the exaxt same tho

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Does it help that I don't know who Steve Crowder is? I suspect he's done something bad if people don't like him, but seeing as I don't even know the guy, he can't be that globally famous. So...I couldn't care less about the guy 🤷‍♀️

[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bandit from the show Bluey sitting at a table out front of his house, with a mug in his hand, and a sign posted on that table. The sign has a blank spot on it, presumably for controversial opinions, and underneath where that blank spot is it says "change my mind".

I am partial to the Bandit version myself

!bluey@lemmy.world

[–] Designate6361@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am literally going to use this

[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nice!! Share your results with us if you want to. B)

[–] FQQD@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Waluigi@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

He's a conservative commentator who regularly says homophobic and racist stuff.

[–] FQQD@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Yeahhh right that doesn't sound like he's a good guy lmao

[–] TrustingZebra@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Change his mind.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago

I listened to a snippet of his trash and the only funny part was that he always refers to US President Joe Biden as “Former Vice President Joe Biden”.

The rest was complete shit.