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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The people here praising the Houthis seem to think they knew who they were attacking rather than just seeing a ship pass by and attacking it, which is what they actually do.

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in general I didn't expect to see praise for a group that has "A Curse Upon the Jews" as part of their official slogan.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are certain people on Lemmy who support the Houthis because they claim what they are doing supports Gaza. It does not. They aren't stopping Israel from doing anything by doing this... but there are people here who have this ridiculous "enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are" attitude which baffles me. The Houthis are awful. They have killed a huge number of people, including children, just like Israel. But hey, they're declared enemies of Israel, so we can just overlook that little issue.

I've seen people even praise theocracies like Iran for the same reason.

It's ridiculous.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

“enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are” attitude

See also: "America bad, therefore Russia good"

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is just so blatantly false. Either the media manipulates the real owners or just cites the flag it sails under.

This ship had a Greek crew. Greece is the host of the European israel protection operation in the Red Sea. Meaning Greece has willingly involved themselves in the Genocide to defend israel so they have been barred from access.

And take last months US military confirms Houthi missile strikes on two ships in Gulf of Aden

Two missiles fired by the Houthis struck the Norderney, a German-owned cargo ship operating under Antigua and Barbados flags

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yet another batshit insane Linkerbaan take. Go outside.

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To the people downvoting the above comment: Houthis declaring US and UK ships open to attack as retaliation to the drone strikes in Yemen, then also extending this to the ships operated by the latest coalition against blocking the Red Sea sea traffic against Israeli profits is a would have been a no-brainer when you consider attacks on allies of belligerent countries are viable when it comes to Russian-Ukrainian war or any non-western supported war.

Houthis have been waging these attacks against with the aim of pressuring the allies of Israel, the decades long genocide committing apartheid, rogue and terrorist state, away from supporting its latest and most intense war crimes. They have been accomplishing this pretty well, and this is just an economic pressure akin to embargoes the western hemisphere applies to whoever they don't like at that moment. There will be literal and figurative friendly fires, attacks on bystanders, and unintended consequences to some extent, of course, but as per the wikipedia compilation, mostly the countries, companies and ships that keep trading with Israel despite their extensive war crimes are affected from the Houthi attacks, while the rest are pretty much operating unhindered.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Britain and the U.S. are still trading with Israel and now they hit a Russian ship. How does this help Gaza at all?

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

British and US ships being harbored by the Greek host of the operation is a direct counter action to the Houthi efforts to pressure Israel to permanent ceasefire via pressuring its allies with economic repercussions.

As for the sole ship pointed in this article, it is not a Russian ship per the article. It is a Marshall Islands owned ship, under Liberian flag, operating by and for the profit of a Greek company, carrying Russian oil to China.

The only negative effect this has for the Houthi/Iran side is that their allies' commerce has also been disrupted. It is not even a negative effect if you count the pressure this applies on their allies Russia and China to separate their commerce from Greek companies.

Politics is nuanced, this pressure can also backfire, but I seriously doubt either Russia or China would lessen ties over a changeable middleman. On the other hand, Greek companies will feel more pressure from the loss of cut from the Asian trade pie more, and will pressure their government to lessen their involvement in backing Israel in this matter.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd like this a lot more if it wasn't dumping oil into the sea...

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100,000 tons of crude. Who's responsible for mopping this around for PR before it finally sinks to the bottom?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't hold your breath. "People waiting to be saved in the Middle East" is a long list, and I assume the seabirds are low down.

What is a typical rate of actual recovery after an oil spill?

Yeah. The nature devastation kinda takes the fun out of it...

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Will be interesting how this will affect Russia's uninsured/self insured vessels going forward. As they've been cut off from all maritime insurers with the sanctions, they will have to cover this one themselves. It will hurt.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Houthis attacking all three imperial superpowers at once holy based.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Newsweek has such shit journalism, man:

Yemen's Houthi rebels continued their attacks in the Red Sea by targeting two tankers in 24 hours, including a vessel carrying Russian oil likely heading to Asia, where China is the region's largest buyer.

That's the only justification given... Even though, y'know, India has been the largest buyer of seaborne Russian oil since the sanctions and is also, shockingly, in Asia. Meanwhile, it's summer and the Northern Sea Route is viable, cutting the transport distance almost in half.