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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only reason I would be against this is because it disincentivizes removing large parking lots, which are primarily a waste of space. If we could replace some of that wasted space with housing (which could also have solar slapped on it) that would be ideal.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Parking lots ain't going anywhere.

[–] Fitzsimmons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

They are and they must. There is no path forward that doesn't massively disinvest from personal vehicles.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Plastering agricultural land with parking lots and suburban sprawl is a crime against humanity. This wasteful land use needs to end.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I've done a ton of biking in my area over the last 15 years, and it's been depressing seeing how much former farmland and unused wild area is getting gobbled up by the fucking McMansions and "high 700s" McTownhouses. The townhouses are especially sad - like, you're out in the middle of fucking nowhere (no town in sight) and yet you're jammed in with neighbors on both walls?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Depends. Some agro-PV systems I have seen are 50% transparent. The plants get a sufficient amount of light, and are protected from hail and heavy rain.

I have even seen a prototype where the pillars for the panels incorporate a rail system on which sowing, weeding, and harvesting tools can run electrically in instead of being pulled by a tractor.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

PV coverings also trap some ambient heat and regulate the surface temperature better than full exposure, acting like a greenhouse that encourages plant growth.

Folks so set on zero sum systems that they ignore synergies.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Most of the growth in solar has been market driven. It's why Texas has a lot of solar despite them subsidizing oil and gas. It's free, plentiful energy that hits the ground almost every day. If you have boatloads of land that's not ideal for farming, yet not too hot for much of the year, it makes economic sense.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

Is it prime agriculture land if no one is using it for prime agricultural land?

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The amount of area needed for solar does not even begin to approach the amount of farm land. People generally aren’t building solar panels on farmland anyways? The largest instillations in the US are in the middle of the fucking desert.

Also get rid of as many parking lots as possible.

There is just so many layers of false and absurd narrative in this.