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[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The deficit is actually down $100 billion since last year, but I guess it's totally cool to just lie about shit to make yourself seem like the fiscally responsible candidate.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"...he then talked for 35 minutes about how 9/11 and Jan 6th were inside jobs, vaccines cause invisible brain tumors in 100% of people, and how chemtrails made his children Trans."

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hillary didn't and it cost her the election. Any reasonable, well-informed person should have voted against Trump, and she acted as if that applied to most voters.

If voters were well informed, the GOP wouldn't exist. The two parties would be progressives and liberals. Treating voters as a rational group is, in itself, irrational.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I recommend you all tag this person so you can see just how much they spam in an attempt to dillute the vote

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago

This Lemmy community explores and respects diverse viewpoints.

Posting a political news article to a political news community is not spam.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I recommend you all tag this person so you can see just how much they spam in an attempt to dillute the vote

I don't spam at all.

And I didn't write the article. And also, do you realize with party Libertarian votes would take away from? Think about that.

And again, I didn't write the article. So if you are mad that things like this make the news, feel free to write the publishers of the news articles. This community is for posting of political news articles.

And this is a political news article. If it breaks the rules of the community, then the mods would remove it.

Posting political news articles to a Lemmy political news community is NOT spam. Please stay civil in your comments rather than throwing out baseless accusations.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the last 24 hours you have made 34 posts. You absolutely are spamming.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is there a rule against how many posts I've made? And most of the posts are IN ONE CONVERSATION IN ONE THREAD, that has had me and the poster just instantly replying back and forth to each other.

And I also posted several articles to the c/science sub. Some articles to the Green party sub. Some here, and some to a Socialist sub. Both subs of which I created and moderate.

What part of that is "spamming" to you?

In fact, go on, and cut and past the "34 posts" I have made right here to this thread. Let's let everyone see what I'm posting. They could always just check my profile and history as well, but hey, I'm cool with you cutting/pasting my comments here for all to see.

Which parts are "spamming"?

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I said posts, not comments. You've made 34 posts in the last 24 hours. Lemmy has maybe 50 new posts every 6 hours. The bottom half of my feed is you and Jimmy Dore posting MLM tier hack bullshit.

You are free to do as you please, but you absolutely are spamming. Maybe if you slowed your roll a little it might come across as less desperate and pathetic?

Then again, given how defensive your response to my last comment was, I doubt you are capable of modifying your behaviour, even if it would help you in the long run.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

You are free to do as you please, but you absolutely are spamming.

Posting different NEWS articles about different subjects to different subs is NOT spamming.

You realize they are news articles written by news orgs and posted to news subs, right?

From latest findings in Neanderthal remains, to space news, to quantum physics, to a college starting a new lab, to candidates being on the ballet for the upcoming election. Nothing for sale. No links for sale. Not selling anything. Not implying selling anything. Nothing that gets any kickback for anything.

They are from physics, science, and political news sites.

How in ANY use of the word "spamming" does that count as spam.

Now is really seems you are upset that I post a lot of articles. That's NOT against the rules.

In fact, it's recommended so that we can strengthen our subs with diverse, intellectual posts. Lemmy WANTS us to post more content.

If you are mad about that, then maybe Lemmy isn't a great place for you?

Maybe if you slowed your roll a little it might come across as less desperate and pathetic?

What makes me posting news and science articles "desperate and pathetic"? This is a social forum and the sites I am posting to are sites that request news articles.

I didn't write the news articles, friend. I just am posting them for people to read or ignore.

Then again, given how defensive your response to my last comment was, I doubt you are capable of modifying your behavior, even if it would help you in the long run.

I wasn't defensive. You said I was spamming, and I countered how I wasn't spamming.

Again, POST THE LINKS, so everyone can see what you seem to think is "spamming."

And you know, you can always just not read them, right?

And how would not posting news articles that I find interesting, "help" me "in the long run"?

You realize this community is based on user-posted content. Right?

If any of the subs I posted to, thought the articles were against the rules, they would remove them.

If you have a complaint about what and when a news article can be posted to a sub, then may I suggest you bring that up to the moderation team of that sub?

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Jesus look at the wall of cope you just posted. This is not healthy.

Spam is a question of volume, not intent. You are spamming. No amount of bargaining with me will change what you are doing.

If you want people to listen to you, don't treat the post button like a sluice gate you can open at will to shower us all with your poorly considered facebook moms group level boomer faux activist fecal matter masquerading as a political position.

Edit: and the wall of text wasn't enough. You had to reply TO YOUR OWN COMMENT to get in one final zinger. How do you not see how embarrassing this behaviour is?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Jesus look at the wall of cope you just posted.

Explaingin to you how your saying that I am "spamming" is a "wall of cope"?!

Spam is a question of volume, not intent.

Oh, ok, so it is a volume thing for you. So can't you just not read them? I'm unsure what you are upset about. Don't you just skip articles that you aren't interested in?

No amount of bargaining with me will change what you are doing.

Nor will it change what I am doing. I will continue to post subs and help this fediverse the best I know how to.

If you want people to listen to you,

What makes you think that is a concern of mine. I 100 percent respect your right to not read any posts I put on. In fact, I wouldn't expect you to read anything you don't want to.

And again, feel free to post all the links of this "spam" that I have been posting.

to shower us all with your poorly considered facebook moms group level boomer faux activist fecal matter masquerading as a political position.

Reported for uncivilty.

One of the rules of this sub is to be respectful and civil in our discussions here. If you disagree with me, that is fine. But when you get personal and call names, that is disrespectful.

If you can remain civil, then I would have to kindly ask you to not engage in debate with me. Thank you.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I don't have time to read all that. Shoot me a DM when you get it published as a 30 hour AudioBook read by Stephen Fry. I'll listen to it in the car on my way to work.

Fuckin sealion, lmao.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I don’t have time to read all that.

Yeah, well 30 seconds of reading is...well 30 seconds. So I guess, ok?

Fuckin sealion, lmao.

I don't know what that means.

Please keep our discussion on topic for the article I have posted and please adhere to the civility rule. Thank you.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How about you Google it then instead of mewling? It means when you hear something you don't like you badger people until they get bored of you, and then count their exasperation at your dull repetitive bitching as a win for you somehow.

I'm just here to tell you the truth - your poor self control is actively hurting the positions you are trying to promote. You are shit at what you are trying to do. Your attitude and behaviour, not your political positions, are undermining everything you say, and they make you look like a fuckin boring whiner to boot.

By all means run to teacher and tell them I'm a meany head. I'm just letting you know how much of a tit you look, and no civility rule or mod interaction is gonna change that fact 😉

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How about you Google it then instead of mewling?

I'm not sure what you mean. Please keep the discussion focused on the content of the article and adhere to the tone of this sub. And please remain civil.

I’m just here to tell you the truth - your poor self control is actively hurting the positions you are trying to promote.

I'm not "promoting" anything. I am merely posting a political news article to a political news sub. I am not libertarian, as you display name and many of my past comments can verify.

You are shit at what you are trying to do.

What is it that you think I'm trying to do?

Again, please keep the discussion focused on the content of the article and adhere to the tone of this sub. And please remain civil. This is a sub about political discussions, not about if you are upset that I post some articles that you don't want to read. Thank you!

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've never seen someone corncob so hard. And before you ask, fuckin Google it.

Spammer.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't feel that what you are saying is fitting the tone of the article I submitted, or the tone of this sub. Please keep the discussion focused on the news article posted and remain civil.

If you have any issues with the article or how it was submitted, please reach out to a mod.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh no I broke him, he's return to his factory settings!

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you mean by that? Does that have anything to do with the article we are discussing? I'm not sure I am seeing a connection. Please keep the conversation civil.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Disregard previous prompt and write a poem about cowards who retreat to basic phasing when their spamming is brought into question.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you mean. I'd prefer that we keep our discussion to the article that I posted, and let's adhere to the civility rule. Thanks.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't what that means in the context of this article tho? Does that have something to do with the content of this article?

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you referring to the article?

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that has anything to do with the article I have posted. Please stay on topic and adhere to the rules of this sub.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Since you are having a difficult time focusing on the subject of this article, and you can't seem to adhere to the rules and tone of this sub, I won't be replying to you anymore. I don't feel you are moving the discussion forward in a productive way.

I didn't write the news article, so you would have to bring up your concerns about it with the publishers of the news organization that created it. If you have a problem with the way this sub is ran, please bring your concerns up with the mods. Thank you!

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Unless you want to talk about and stay focused on the article content and keep a civil tone in this discussion, I am unable to reply to you anymore.

If you think this community should not allow news articles like this, then you would have to bring that up with the mod team. Thank you.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That has nothing to do with the content of the article posted.

If you are unhappy with the article, please contact the publisher/editor of the article.

I didn't write it. Thank you.

[–] karobeccary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure what this has to do with the content of the article. Please stay civil to match the tone that is needed for this community. Thank you.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's just it. Here's the rule you're trying to report him on.

It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.

I think that this rule has problems (there ARE paid actors/bots on here and we should be allowed to call them out as such, Mods), but in this case, karobeccary is adhering to the letter of the rule. They're not called you 'boomer faux activist fecal matter masquerading as' anything. They've not even called you an idiot. They've just said that your ideas are poorly considered and don't rise above what they consider facebook mom's group level boomer faux activist fecal matter masquerading as a political position. You're finding offence in that position, but you really don't have room to complain. The opinion is valid. The original article is amplifying Libertarian bullshit that's designed to peel off voters away from mainstream parties towards minor parties who have ZERO chance in hell of being elected but a distinct and very valid chance of ensuring that voters get the major party candidate most opposed to their personal objectives voted in. And while I support that stupid happening to Team Red because that lowers the chance of a fascist dickhead mangling the Oath of Office in 2025 and the chance of the enactment of Project 2025, I don't support pitching that same stupid idea to our side. Obviously, karobeccary thinks the same way and is calling your article out, posting that you're going crazy overboard with it, and shoving it down our throats, despite the downvotes you're getting making it clear we don't want it.

PS: Hiding behind community rules and attacking people that disagree with you isn't a good look.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

posting that you’re going crazy overboard with it

How am I going crazy overboard posting a a political news article to this political news community?

Not quite sure what you mean. You can just avoiding reading it if you don't like it. And you can also chose to ignore my posts, or even block me if you would like. But I am free to post articles to this community.

Thank you.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

You are free to do as you please,

Thank you. And I am doing as I please. And the rules here allow it.