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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sooo... the working class should own the means of production?

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but let's try to achieve that without state ownership of the means.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How can the working class own something if the state owns it?

It's very simple.

Nationalists nationalize.

Socialists socialize.

If one is doing the other it means somebody is lying to you.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

That's just nonsense there's plenty of reasons certain resources should be nationalized. Why do I care if the company that owns all the clean water is owned by one asshole or a group of them? Certain things in a nation belong to the people of the nation as a whole. Namely the national resources. No one company deserves to own that.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

This is the Centerpoint strategy for maintaining the Houston electric grid

[–] TIN@feddit.uk 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I work in consultancy and have a dream of forming a small elite company of consultants, employee owned, just 10 or so people who are shit hot at their jobs.

I would plan for it to always be 10 people, deliberately no growth. Do the job well, take a good wage, have some parties.

It's when companies look for massive growth and shareholder value that everything starts to go to shit.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

just 10 or so people who are shit hot at their jobs.

Why would you want ten competent people when Deloite and McKinsey prove you can make way more money with a thousand incompetent people?

[–] thecam@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

By 2030, you will own nothing and be happy!