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[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Daily reminder that IP law is fucking stupid.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And always about protecting the hegemony of the rich and powerful.

It's never about the struggling artist/inventor just wanting to be paid for their work as the lobbyists and the politicians they own pretend every time they want to fuck over regular people some more.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The rich didn't come up with the IP. It was the employees who did. They also want to get paid. Imagine someone stealing your ideas and then you losing your job over it.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

B/S. The article states that this company bought the IP from Makerbot in 2013 so nobody working there was responsible for creating these patents. This is like when people claim that piracy hurts the people working on the set of a movie. It actually doesn't because those people were already paid their wages while the billion dollar corporations are the ones who own the rights and profit off of sales with none of that going to the workers outside of their normal wage.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If there is no incentive to make profits on IP, nobody will hire people to develop the IP. Congrats, you made the rich lose their profits but you also made everyone lose their jobs.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes because nobody had jobs before IP law and nothing was invented.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

IP law was invented when it became necessary to protect it. We no longer live in a cave but in a globalized and industrialized world economy.

Most value nowadays is IP. Producing goods is easy, everyone can do that now. Manufacturing is easy. Logistics is easy. Inventing stuff is NOT easy anymore in a digitalized world! So in order to encourage innovation, we need to have incentives that protects your innovation and pays your bills. And since most innovation is IP, we need IP protection. Simple logic. The alternative would be total economical collapse.

Your idealistic world view simply doesn't work in this day and age.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Lmao, as an idiot trying to get a 20y/o stratysys running at work, I can see why they're trying to sue.

Their machines are trash and wildly outdated, DRM spools locked into cases and disposable beds are GARBAGE.

Turns out they spent a lot of time developing the 'cutting edge' FDM tech from 30 years ago and can't quite keep up with their coreXY counterparts.

[–] apemint@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

We have 3 Stratasys printers at work and yeah, you're absolutely correct.

To add, their 'professional' slicer program "Insight" is the most user hostile piece of software I've ever laid my eyes on. Straight out of 1992 levels of awful. The workflow, the UI (if you can call it that), everything.

The other 'user friendly' slicer is "GrabCAD Print", an Apple style piece of garbage. It lacks everything beyond basic functionality, yet lately they've been pumping it full of subscription locked features.

Honestly, fuck this company.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

The old adage: Young companies innovate while old companies litigate.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

The print beds are SINGLE USE injection molded ABS(I think it's ABS, anyhow).

They snap over the heating element and seem to be a gigantic waste of resources. You can tell R&D was pushed to make their machines as profitable as possible by avoiding reusable parts.

You can't refill their spool cassettes either without some RFID hacking.

It's fuckin' bogus.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

US9421713B2 - Additive manufacturing method for printing three-dimensional parts with purge towers

US9592660B2 - Heated build platform and system for three-dimensional printing methods

US7555357B2 - Method for building three-dimensional objects with extrusion-based layered deposition systems

US9168698B2 - Three-dimensional printer with force detection

US10556381B2 - Three-dimensional printer with force detection

That's like all of 3d printing, that's pretty scary. If they win on all 5, seems like it'd kill consumer 3d printing entirely.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eastern District of Texas is extremely favorable to patent trolls. It’s not a coincidence that they filed the suit there.

[–] Hexbatch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I hope one day it will be illegal to shop for judges to shut down tech companies

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why can they even patent stuff they didn't invent?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Better lawyers. Patent law is so f'd up. Few understand it and those that do take advantage of it.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good news is, you will never be able to stop hobbyist 3d printing.

Sorry patent trolls, you can't make aluminum extrusion, stepper motors, an extruder, and a short circuit illegal.

[–] SpaceMan9000@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that most people aren't making RepRap printers from scratch, they're buying kits which has everything included.

Bambu makes decent gear, I don't think we want to have the only option being Chinese machines which always makes compromises to make it cheaper. And that's coming from a person who uses Chinese printers.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

I don’t think we want to have the only option being Chinese machines

When you shut everyone else down, they're the only guys left with the freedom to do business.