Fediverse

You've got a terminology problem.

Free speech has become a coded term.

It shouldn't have, but it did. Now, when people say they want "free speech" they don't usually mean that they want all speech protected. They mean that they want specific kinds of speech protected.

Those kinds fall afoul of the "tolerance paradox" because the people crowing the term around are specifically the neo nazis, gay bashers, extremists and kkk friendly sorts.

So, if you find a "free speech" instance, that is exactly who will dominate the instance. That's just a fact now. Every instance that has laid claim to free speech gets taken over by those people.

As such, defederation is the only realistic option because those same people refuse to follow the rules on other instances. It has happened recently with hexbear. It had previously happened with exploding heads. And, frankly, it was always the case with lemmygrad, though they were usually not as bad about ignoring rules elsewhere.

The other type of thing you get on "free speech" places is kiddie porn. Sometimes just the drawn kind, but sometimes the real stuff.

Being real with you? You will not find an instance that allows hate speech that isn't dominated by it. Period. It doesn't exist. If you specifically enjoy that kind of thing,, that's on you. But that isn't the same thing as people having a different opinion. That's people wanting other human beings to be anything from oppressed to eradicated. If that's something you think is just a matter of opinion, you might as well head on over to exploding heads because you aren't going to last long anywhere else. You'll get banned from most places by virtue of trying to defend hate speech.

Run your own instance. It's the only way you'll be able to set your own policies. Otherwise you're subject to policies of the instance you're on and those policies may change at any time.

You aren't going to find an instance that both tolerates hate-speech, and is federated with mostly everyone. That's not how that works. Sorry, you cannot have your cake, and eat it too.

Federation is a two-way agreement. Instances that do not allow hate-speech will also not probably federate with instances that do allow hate-speech, because of all the hate-speech.

If you think hate speech is acceptable, you may want to stop and reassess your life. You dun fucked up.

Try building a life that doesn't revolve around worrying about other people do that doesn't affect you, it's far healthier.

An instance that proliferated hate speech would likely be defederated quickly. There are other social medias that actively promote hate speech you could join.

Hey everyone, before you start dogpiling this person, take a step back and understand we're all one family.

When I first joined Lemmy, I joined Beehaw. I can't speak for all of the admins, but Lionir is one of the kindest most helpful people I've had the pleasure to meet. That said, between them not allowing community creation and defederating with the instance my football communities are on, I realised I had to find another home. If I was asked to articulate that at the time, I would've had no chance.

Our friend here is simply asking for an opportunity to commune with people beyond that of which his current admins enjoy. We don't know what it is. I can't speak for all of the people that were banned from anywhere. I know that I've met wonderful people from all servers. Yes even the terrible ones. Don't judge people by their instance. Unless they're admins and their instance is full of Nazis. Then please judge them.

I don't understand why you would take someone wanting to branch out and find their wings as a personal insult or threat.

Please just remember that we're a team. We make this place good by interacting civilly with one another.

Also if you are familiar with Rust or PostgreSQL, please take a look at the Lemmy Github and see if you're capable of contributing towards getting account migration sorted.

does not censor hate speech

federated with everyone

Yeah okay OP someone definitely isn't some flavour of racist

It's not really possible to have an instance that doesn't remove hate speech but also hasn't been defederated by other instances, since most instances do not tolerate hate speech.

You're more likely to be exposed to different viewpoints in a reasonably moderated instance that doesn't allow hate speech, which would be federated with a lot of other instances, rather than an instance that allows it, which would most likely be in a hate speech bubble with other similar instances.

What you're asking for is impossible. Any server that doesn't police your speech heavily online will get defederated by other servers. Its not up to the admin of your server which other servers defederate.

Defederation is a powerful tool for an admin. They're the ones that make the rules, why would they make a rule against defederation? Who'd enforce it on them?

Dunno how your instance fares regarding moderation, but looking at the modlog of my instance, Kbin Social, moderators seem to act only against disruptive behavior, like spam and gratuitous offenses:
https://kbin.social/modlog

And I haven't seem people complaining elsewhere, like on Discord, about Kbin-related instances, unlike certain Lemmy-related instances, so it appears to be fine for now.

The lemmy devs and users are rigidly against hate speech / free speech. they are afraid it will push away many users who are more sensitive, and ruin the quality of discussion. they don't tolerate free speech instances.

but who knows, they might be right.

I've argued with tankies at length on lemmy.ml, and just this morning I posted this, and I've never had any kind of problem with being banned or having posts or comments removed. I had my posts removed from both the right and the left on reddit, which pissed me off in both instances, but I've literally never seen it happen yet on lemmy.world.

I suspect that what you want is not "free speech," because as far as I can tell, that already exists here to a pretty firm degree. If you really want to federate with everyone, you can run your own instance. If you want someone else to do the work of running the instance, but for them not to be able to defederate to protect themselves from abuse or illegality, I'm not sure what to tell you other than good luck with that.

So true, bestie. All I want to do is let the minority-beaters have a platform. Who knows! Maybe this time they’ll have a good point. Lick my farthole in Minecraft, one love