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This (arguably unhelpful) phrase seems to be taught across schools all over the world. What are some other phrases like this that are common ?

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Okay, as a biologist it really upsets me how that phrase is written off. I did an impromptu half hour lecture for my wife about how significant "the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell" is,

The mitochondria is what ties everything on this planet together, it's the one thing that ties all life together, it is the exact same mechanism in plants as it is in animals, it takes the same ingredients and does the same function, and comes from the same origin.

There is no chain in our DNA that codes for the mitochondria, it exists outside of our DNA, it has no relationship with our DNA, it only fuels reading DNA and it's decoding and replication, but it isn't included in our genetics. It replicates itself, it exists as a separate entity, and it acts as the functioning unit for all energy within the cell.

It would be like if when a child was born their lungs were provided by an outside source and had the same genetic material as everyone else's lungs. Oh and puppy lungs, and crab lungs, and avocado lungs, and grass lungs, every single living thing on this plant has the same lung genetic material. And it has no clue that it serves this function, all it knows is ADP goes in, ATP goes out, and ATP is energy that fuels all function of all life.

And it comes from the friggin mitochondria.

Please be impressed with that little hitch hiker, it is the powerhouse that powers your neurons, grows the vegetables you eat, and makes life happen on earth.

How will we know something extraterrestrial comes our way? They'll have their own mitochondria, because something needs to power their cells, and it won't be the same as ours.

Writing off the mitochondria from biology is like writing off the exchange of goods in economics, or doing physics without the concept of mass, or art without feeling. There is nothing more basic, more fundamentally important to biology than the existence of the mitochondria, and it's role as the powerhouse of the cell.

MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL. That you know that makes me happy.

[–] DeathStrandicoot@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

This is prokaryote erasure.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

How will we know something extraterrestrial comes our way? They'll have their own mitochondria, because something needs to power their cells, and it won't be the same as ours.

New writing prompt, aliens show up and they are wildly different from us but they and all life on their planet also use the exact same mitochondria as us.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did your lecture get you laid?

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Are you kidding, I'm married.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My mitochondria are retarded, do you have any advice? I have the mitochondrial dna sequenced in cram format if that's useful. Low heteroplasmy, very low mitochondria number per cell (0th percentile), and poor energy production.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Try High Intensity Interval Training. Really intensive short workouts of a few minutes seem to regenerate mitochondria.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source I can follow

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Very interesting, wonder how this compares to just exercising

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

From what I’ve read it is claimed to regenerate mitochondria, be quite quick to do so you save time but other forms of exercise achieve different results like burning fat, cardio etc.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wonder if you need good mitochondria to put on fat? I can only put on muscle

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s more about metabolic health rather than weight loss or gain. Mitochondria are the powerhouse of cellular biology and not having enough or poorly functioning mitochondria leads to all sorts of problems like inflammation and metabolic disorders like diabetes. A well functioning mitochondria should give more energy and better performance as well as better health.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Can definitely tick the inflammation box lol

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mitochondria is plural. Mitochondria are the powerhouses of the cell.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

What's the singular, then?

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Mitochondrion

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Mitochondreez nutz

[–] randomsnark@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

that phrase is to biology as "donde esta la biblioteca" is to spanish

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

'i' before 'e' except after 'c'

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago

Like in β€œscience”.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or when sounding like β€œA” as in neighbor and weigh

And on weekends and holidays, and all throughout May

And you always be wrong, no matter what you say.

[–] kerobaros@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

yes, Bryan, we all call that "desk"

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

This is honestly one of my favorite ones, and legit runs through my head whenever I can't remember the spelling of a word

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While not unhelpful, stop-drop-and-roll and quicksand don't come up as often as we thought back then

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

I was always worried about proper handling of nitroglycerin. Talking to my friends it seems that wasn't as common as quicksand or even thinking you'd need to tell gold apart from fool's gold (pyrite). Games like Crash Bandicoot, shows like Dexter's Lab, and a general interest in science may have meant I heard more about it as a kid.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I've only heard this phrase from Americans, so I think "all over the world" is a stretch

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Australian here, they taught us this meme in school.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a meme in the netherlands as well.

[–] Psuedocoder@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Its taught in India as well, (and is also a meme here)

Can confirm in south india

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I believe most nations have a version of β€œHead, Shoulders, Knees, and Toes” that is taught in early education.

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

To the tune of "Pop Goes The Weasel":

x equals negative b /
plus or minus the square root /
of b squared minus 4 ac /
all over 2a!

I cannot believe that stupid fucking song is still in my head, but good God damn it worked. It's there for all 0 times I'll need the quadratic equation in my daily life.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

It was to to the tune of Frère Jacques when I learned it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A8re_Jacques

Negative b, negative b
Plus or minus square root, plus or minus square root
B squared minus 4 AC, b squared minus 4 AC
Over 2A, over 2A

Finding the name of the original song was a pain. I'd never seen it written as an adult and thought it said "do re mi" so every search result kept telling me it was from the sound of music.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can't even visualise what you are saying

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I don't hear it either, though.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

It’s β€œits”, not β€œit’s”, unless you mean β€œit is”, in which case it is β€œit’s”.

  • Mr Francis, high school English
[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Do you have any evidence your phrase is used all over the world? I never learnt it.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Definitely did it in Australia.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Biology class circa 2001-2003

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I learned it in German in Germany. Do we have evidence from the francophone world? Latam? China?

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Checking in from NZ, sounds familiar to me

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think this phrase was made into a meme by an American children's TV show called Bill Nye the Science Guy; it's said during the intro sequence.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ohhhhhh I had never put two and two together on that

Actually I think I'm wrong.

Apparently the phrase dates from a biology paper published in 1957. I think I've been Mandela Effected; I have a memory of several voices coming in and saying science phrases, in between "Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill!" but having just rewatched the intro sequence on Youtube this only happens once and the phrase it says is "Intertia is a property of matter."

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

my very eager mother just served us nine

rip pizzas

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Mother very easily made a jam sandwich using no plate.