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    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Librewolf, but I'd argue it's more of a Firefox/web debloater reason. No pocket, no VPN ads. I would have said that the only issue is that it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater and software repos, so I would almost recommend it over stock firefox for normies.

    And I use tor to search stuff that contains sensitive data like my location... Or when a website is blocked

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

    This is the argument I keep using for why people should use Linux more. The fact you have to run updater software for each piece of software is so stupid. It's a horrible solution to a poorly designed problem. On Linux I just tell my package manager to update everything and it takes care of it all. There's no need for the user to be handling all of that, and it also shouldn't have to update in starting the application because that's when the user wants to use it, not wait for an update.

    (For reference: it's the same thing as on your phone where it tells you the number of things that need updated and you just tell it to update whenever you feel like it.)

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    VPN ads? Not sure I've ever gotten such a thing. Been using Firefox daily for several years

    [–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    You know that tab that opens sometimes when you update Firefox? The welcome to Firefox or what's new, whatever it is? If I remember correctly, there are sometimes ads for mozilla vpn on that tab. But you, like me, might just close that tab without ever looking at its contents

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

    Haha yeah... I actually like that there is a confirmation that an update was installed and there's a list of changes if I want to view them. If that "ad" indeed is there, it's inoffensive enough I never once noticed it. I loathe ads. Not one of those people who tolerates them

    [–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater

    the linux package manager in question

    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    it's not in the arch repos πŸ’€

    [–] swab148@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    everything is in the aur

    edit: i use the aur package already, but you have to acknowledge aur packages just aren't the same

    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

    [Richard Stallman] usually does not browse the web directly from his personal computer. Instead, he uses GNU Womb's grab-url-from-mail utility, an email-based proxy which downloads the webpage content and then emails it to the user.

    If you're not doing this you're not properly paranoid.

    LibreWolf as daily driver and whenever I need a little extra privacy I use Tor or even tails

    [–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Tor Browser serves a different purpose/use-case to the first two. The first two are intended for everyday browsing while I've never heard of anyone using Tor Browser as their daily browserβ€”and if you log into websites then using Tor Browser as your daily driver would defeat the anonymity purposes if you're logging in anyway.

    I use librewolf for everyday browsing and Tor Browser for things requiring a higher threat model.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    It actually feels selfish to use Tor as a daily driver.

    [–] uint@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I assume that by "selfish" you mean taking up bandwidth from the Tor network, which is a valid concern. But using it as a daily driver for low-bandwidth tasks like reading text (and maybe a few compressed pictures here and there) is actually be beneficial to the Tor network, as it increases the size of the crowd, thereby making everyone more anonymous.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

    Eh, that's fair. As long as it is low bandwidth like you said. Maybe I'll do it some.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Librewolf is just a usable Firefox

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Firefox is a completely usable Firefox.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    If you dont care about Ad search engines, Studies, Pocket, Google Safebrowsing, search suggestions, a start page with ads, weak privacy settings, all cookies saved forever, no adblocking, a unique canvas fingerprint, a user agent containing your Linux Distro,...

    I went through the arkenfox user.js and literally all of it minus 20 or so settings just make sense. The rest are kinda overkill, but really, Firefox is horrible out of the box.

    It is really modular luckily

    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

    "horrible" being mostly sensible for the average user, as well as basic telemetry for making development much easier. but muhhh nooo with that information they can know who exactly I am!!! preach!!!

    [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Librewolf for normal stuff, Tor for stuff I don't even want linked to my IP.

    [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Jokes on you, cause a lot of alphabet organizations set up entry and exit nodes on Tor so you're being tracked regardless.

    [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Most of my Tor activity is on onionsites, so that's okay.

    Also, even given spooky nodes, the chances of getting a spooky entry and exit node are slim. Still, given the possibility, it is advisable to do spicy clearnet activities away from home with a MAC randomizer as insurance in case you win the world's worst roulette game.

    [–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

    I think the big problem I have with tor is that there's no way to know how compromised the network is. From a three letter agency budget, setting up 30,000 nodes wouldn't be a big deal, you just have them doing other things.

    Of course, I'm not really doing anything that would draw the ire of a three-letter agency, so even tor is overkill.

    I was also never really big on people running bad s*** through my node. I've always felt better using a paid proxy then at least claims not to log, Even if there's a half decent chance that people are watching their ingress and egress at the ISP level.

    [–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

    ubuntu font!!!

    [–] LinusSexTips@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

    schizofox "Hardened Firefox flake for the delusional and the schizophrenics."

    [–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

    Fuck firefox. Are you sheep just going to ignore all the shit they put you through, and didn't even explain themselves?

    Firefox is a shitshow, I don't care "how good they are now". If you don't remember how bad they treated you circa 2012, then fuck off groupie wanker.

    Firefox is where they are for a good reason, they cannot be trusted. Only wankers keep promoting them.