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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It would have been nice if they came up with something shorter like .lan.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] nethad@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You go to networking jail for that.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Shit, let's hope the ICANN cops don't find me out then... I've been using it for years!

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"I hereby sentence you to two years on your own VLAN with no gateway"

[–] Damage@feddit.it 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Please Mr. Router, mercy!"

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

iptables -I APPEALS -j DROP

[–] Deebster@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that's LAN - I thought you'd put ian and I was trying to get the joke. Stupid sans-serif fonts.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

First pictures of him sleeping now he has a TLD

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Sorry. I chose .local and I'm sticking to it.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I switched from .local to .honk and I'm never looking back.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

I don’t get it.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago
[–] chrisbit@leminal.space 1 points 3 months ago

It's also second only to .com in terms of query volume in ICANN's Magnitude statistics with 980 mil vs .internal's 60 mil. Not sure if that makes it a de facto standard, but it's close.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I was using .local, but it ran into too many conflicts with an mDNS service I host and vice versa. I switched to .lan, but I'm certainly not going to switch to .internal unless another conflict surfaces.

I've also developed a host-monitoring solution that uses mDNS, so I'm not about to break my own software. 😅

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

.internal takes to long to type

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't really have a use at home for mDNS. None that I can think of, anyway. Pretty sure I was using it before MDNS was a thing.

[–] Supermariofan67@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Accessing printers? Resolving hostnames of internal hosts? I can't imagine having a lan without mDNS

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 3 months ago

Oh. Internal hosts, I just setup on my own DNS.. No need for that. Printer, can't say I've ever had a problem.

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I went with .home and so far the problems are within reason

[–] anytimesoon@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm using .home and have not had any issues. Would you mind sharing what problems you've come across so I know what to expect?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

The main problem I have is waking up in the middle of the night worrying that ICANN pulled some more stupid corrupt bullshit that only makes networking worse and breaks my config.

Just look elsewhere in this thread: someone thinks that using .honk as a joke is safe. But what about .horse? .baby? .barefoot? .cool? (I stopped scrolling through the list at this point but you can see how arbitrary and idiotic things have become.)

[–] dhtseany@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I still haven't heard a convincing argument to not use .local and I see no reason to stop.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mainly conflicts with mDNS. However it's shitty IMHO that the mDNS spec snarfed a domain already in widespread use, should have used .mDNS or similar.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

That I agree with. Microsoft drafted the recommendation to use it for local networks, and Apple ignored it or co-opted it for mDNS.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

My main issue was it doesn’t play well with Macs.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

.local is already used by mDNS/Zeroconf.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It should be reserved for sex toys.

Just saying.

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What are you doing step-LAN?

[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I saw you peeked inside my ssh key drawer last night step-LAN

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Please don't use the duplex again.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Browsers barf at non https now. What are we supposed to do about certificates?

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you mean properly signed certificates (as opposed to self-signed) you'll need a domain name, and you'll need your LAN DNS server to resolve a made-up subdomain like lan.domain.com. With that you can get a wildcard Let's Encrypt certificate for *.lan.domain.com and all your https://whatever.lan.domain.com URLs will work normally in any browser (for as long as you're on the LAN).

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, main point of my comment is that .internal is harder to use that it immediately sounds. I don't even know how to install a new CA root into Android Firefox. Maybe there is a way to do it, but it is pretty limited compared to the desktop version.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You do not have to install a root CA if you use let’s encrypt, their root certificate is trusted by any system and your requested wildcard Certificate is trusted via chain of trust

[–] solrize@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

That's if you have a regular domain instead of.internal unless I'm mixing something. Topic of thread is .internal as if it were something new. Using a regular domain and public CA has always been possible.

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
CA (SSL) Certificate Authority
DNS Domain Name Service/System
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
HTTPS HTTP over SSL
IP Internet Protocol
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL
VPN Virtual Private Network

6 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do I care what ICANN says I can do on my own network? It's my network, I do what I want.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Try using .com for your internal network and watch the problems arise. Their choice to reserve .internal helps people avoid fqdn collisions.

See also https://traintocode.com/stop-using-test-dot-com/

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Well as long as the TLD isn't used by anyone it should work internally regardless of what ICANN says, especially if I add it to etc/hosts