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Samsung's new Galaxy Z Fold 6 is a perfectly fine foldable, but from the brand that started the whole category, is that still enough?

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm looking at the line up of foldables and wondering

  1. do I even really need one? I kinda want one, they look cool, but is it really that much better than a normal phone?

  2. should I even consider the Galaxy when the Honor V3 looks like it's comparable specs with better battery and a thousand dollars cheaper?

Tho the latter requires figuring it how to get and use one in the US.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

generally speaking, id imagine youre a person why often watches content on a ipad mini/small ipad, its neat to have all the screen space in your pocket. if you arent that kind of user then there really isnt a purpose for it.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But only if that viewing comes while you're away from home. There is no reason to buy an expensive and fragile folding phone for video playback when you could buy almost any other phone and a secondhand tablet for less. Plus the tablet will have a bigger screen without a crease.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

but you have to carry 2x the items, which is the main thing. only one of the choices you can functionally do without a bag at all. You're more or less making the DSLR argument where you could claim there's no point on having good cameras on phones because you can carry a DSLR on you and take significantly better photos. Sometimes a choice is made for the ability to not carry something.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How can you type all this up without even reading the very first sentence of my comment?

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

why bring up an argument for sole home use for an object that is more often used on the go? Especially in context of a tablet, when if you were at home and wanted a large form factor screen, the TV becomes an option.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is this a joke question? Tablets have always been used at home. Do you have a TV in every single room of your house?

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

it's to give an example, some people may not have a tv all over their house, which to go into other rooms, they have other options. if it's not a phone, it can potentially be other devices like a laptop and not just necessarily a tablet. The problem is using such a very specific usecase (someone who uses a tablet to watch things, ONLY at home, prefers to not use a TV, prefers to not use a desktop computer connected to a monitor and does NOT have a laptop, or chooses to not use the size of said laptop) is a very very super specfic usecase. Especially in a world now with WFM, the number of people with laptops is likely a lot higher too. The folding phone solves the problem as I stated before, those who choose to not want to carry something extra on the go, but get the extra screen real estate. At home use has to compete with several alternatives, and if you are considering using a tablet at home a lot, the novelty of a folding phone was never even in your market.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem is using such a very specific usecase (someone who uses a tablet to watch things, ONLY at home, prefers to not use a TV, prefers to not use a desktop computer connected to a monitor and does NOT have a laptop, or chooses to not use the size of said laptop) is a very very super specfic usecase.

That's not a niche use case. Tablets have been the primary media consumption device at home away from the TV for many years. That is literally what they have been marketed as for over a decade now. Very few people sit in bed and watch TV shows on their laptop, or go to a desktop computer to do the same. You are living in a bubble if you think this is normal behaviour for the majority of people.

The folding phone solves the problem

It doesn't solve any problem with at-home media consumption because there is no problem. Most people already own a tablet or, as you just argued, a laptop. Even if they don't, there is a massive secondhand market for tablets now. Why would you ever need to go out and spend thousands on a fragile folding device to fulfil this role? It sounds like you have massively fallen for the marketing here.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn’t solve any problem with at-home media consumption because there is no problem.

so why bring it up as a usecase for folding phones, the point is getting that screen space on the go.

It sounds like you have massively fallen for the marketing here.

I don't even have a folding phone, and only recently got a tablet strictly for reading purposes, but i don't throw out the people who do consume content away from home. Like I said, the purpose of the device brings the new ability to not bring something else with you. the product addresses a niche, and by using an example that doesnt cover the niche doesn't invalidate the one major usecase it has in the first place. I'm like on the extremely far end of the folding phones target audience (prefers small phones, uses desktop PC, no personal TV) so thinking that i've fallen for marketing is a laughing statement. I just acknowlege there are people who actually use larger screens away from home, and this product is directed towards them. Folding phones stay a niche because the target audience is a niche. It's not meant to cover the general market unless it also competes in cost. It was my kind of people (people who prefer smaller phones) who were secrificed for larger screens (e.g iphone mini being canceled in favor of a iphone plus model) so I know damn well there is a market out there where people prefer watching stuff on a larger screen. it's one of the main reasons why average screen size has gotten bigger and bigger.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

so why bring it up as a usecase for folding phones, the point is getting that screen space on the go.

You didn't make that point in your original comment, hence my initial reply.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

the portability was the implied aspect of the original post, as I didn't just say iPad, but went out of my way to specifically say ipad mini/smaller iPad, as these two devices are mainly used by people on the go, as they fit well. It's the primary reason why the iPad mini in particular is advertised to women, as they often carry the one bag that can carry it (their purse) which may possibly not carry the larger ipads (11 or 13" ones). The target audience has primarily been those doing this stuff on the go.

[–] CBRich@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I have found my Fold most useful for work stuff. I can view and edit word and excel documents with plenty of space to see everything. I can do it anywhere when I have some free moments without lugging around another device. For casual stuff like Lemmy and web surfing it's just really nice to read more with less scrolling.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

Here in Australia the Honor V2 (older version, V3 just announced) is $200 less then the just announced Z Fold 6, then there are discounts and trade in to reduce the Fold 6's RRP

I don't know how much the Honor V3 will be.

[–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I liked my fold 3 but the screen protector was a pain in the ass especially since I live in a rural area. The closest place that could install new ones was 3 hours away. I attempted it twice and they had bubbles both times. A friend just removed her protector and 3 months later she had the black line going down the center of the screen. Foldables just seem a little too fragile to me.

Also was kind of annoying because websites and apps would detect the wider screen and add a column down the side of the screen - featuring ads usually. Kind of a kick in the nuts to spend $1500 for a larger screen just to get more ads.

That said, I kind of miss being able to run split screen with apps. It was handy to keep a messaging app on the right side of the screen while I browsed the web on the other.

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would certainly hope someone buying a $1900 phone would at least take 30 seconds to install a free DNS-based adblocker

[–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I use NextDNS and still run across this all the time on my tablet. In cases where it's an ad that got filtered it usually leaves empty margins down the sides so the content is still limited to 1/3 of the screen. Other times the area is technically not an ad... But is just click bait shit. Other times it's just random stuff.

I've had some luck using Firefox. With UBlock Origin I can sometimes filter the sections out using their content zapper. With the Stylus extension I have had luck finding custom filters for some sites... But that works until that site updates their HTML a bit and then I start getting random weirdness.

Don't know... It's just something I notice a lot when browsing the web on my tablet (and on the fold when I had it) and find to be a nuisance.