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[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Developers: Those are rookie numbers

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm going for the high score!

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm an IT engineer, 100% of my time is spent on computer problems.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

I’m a home server hobbyist. I like to think of them as computer solutions.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

You don't eat, sleep or go to the bathroom?

Someone call Harrison Ford, we have a replikant!

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How much time do we waste on car problems? Neighbor problems? Political problems? Grocery problems?

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

Right and how much time do we save by having computers? Fixing the problems is just the cost of doing business

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do they include "fighting with anti patterns and dark patterns" as broken? It's pretty insane how much misalignment there is between what most people want their computers to do and what the companies want people to do, which seems to largely be "look at ads literally everywhere".

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Personal computing is badly sick today.

Even for Linux users.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Why for Linux? Its always painted as Zion for matrix-dwellers?

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 12 points 3 months ago

My job is to fix computers so I waste 100% of my time with computer problems.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Whatever. I waste probably 20 hours a week on “work”.

[–] RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Linux users brings the numbers up

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior Fedora Silverblue?
I spend literally no time at all dealing with my OS.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you are joking. But just in case, my installation worked flawlessly for years.

[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's fine, but as a Linux user I've fucked around a lot and spent a lot of time fixing mistakes that I did not need to make.

I think I'm a pretty average Linux user. Who needs something that "just works" when you can break it by trying to add something you don't need?

[–] RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 1 points 3 months ago

Yaa arch BTW guys!!

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 9 points 3 months ago

Sounds more like a lot of people could do with some basic computer skills training.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We are wasting up to 20% of our time with bronze problems.

  • Some grumpy dude circa 3300 BC
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Must be the crappy copper from Ea-nāṣir

[–] czardestructo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That number was more like 30% with a windows laptop and all the security crap Microsoft convinced my company to install. It was so painfully slow and glitchy. So I went rogue and put Linux on my company laptop 8 months ago and I'm not looking back.

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Over here running Fedora KDE 40 on my desktop, dealing with zero issues. My use case is pretty simple, but everything I use just works, no issues.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If your use case is "pretty simple," you're unlikely to have problems with any operating system.

[–] czardestructo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

In my case I'm a manager so I don't do any real work. Linux is great for an Edge browser, ms365 paper pushing wana be engineer.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is 100% due to Microsoft, google and Apple. If you dont understand, I'm not defending my position, or explaining further.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Working server side much? Pretty sure a lot of us spend a lotta time on fixing shit unrelated to either of those 3… Not that it diminishes the merit of our IT support dude that endure due to those 3 indeed.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

Those are rookie numbers. Install Linux and pump those numbers up.

[–] art@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I know. What of it?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 3 months ago

Am I too millennial to have all these problems with computers? They've been in our homes for about forty years now. There's no excuse not to sit down and learn the basics of how it operates.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Jokes on you! My whole life is a waste of time

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Just stop having computer problems

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I thought the title said “We are wasting up to 20% of our time on computers.”

My immediate thought was “That seems way too low…”

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 0 points 3 months ago

I recognise the waste in waiting time, but I also think we are still increasing productivity more than enough to make up for it.

Personally I solve it by multitasking harder. Whenever there is a waiting time for a download or other stuff I simply start doing something else. I'm not going to waste my life watching loading bars for a living.

I don't think increasing user-friendlyness is a good solution. It's pretty much what caused the issues to begin with. Every time Windows or the apps make something more user-friendly it always results in more buttons to click and more updates to keep up.

I also spend an unreasonable amount of time just rearranging the windows in comparison to back when apps had keyboard-only GUIs with functions layered in different pages or tabs. I obviously don't think that is a good solution today either, but it goes to show that the bloated operating system has a lot of the blame.

Say you want to do something simple like renaming a file, you'll need to open an app to show the folders and files and also 100 different functions that are of no use for the specific task, position and scroll it where it's visible, navigate by mouse or keyboard and then do whatever you wanted. My point is that just operating the operation system is something that requires 10s of seconds over and over again every day. There's a long way from thought to execution for the simplest task.

The good thing is that it enables a lot of people to do so without any training at all, so maybe that makes up for it in total.