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The European Commission has published an official list of services offered by ‘gatekeepers’ that must comply with obligations under the new Digital Markets Act. Companies now have six months to comply with the rules.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Major messaging apps will have an obligation to make themselves interoperable with competitors

Government mandated fediverse lmao.

[–] DestroyMegacorps@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

And now the goverment forces them to be open source

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Broadly, the DMA is the EU’s attempt to rein in the market power of Big Tech by opening up entrenched platforms and curbing ecosystem lock-in and anti-competitive behavior, making them compete on the merits of their products and services alone. Major messaging apps will have an obligation to make themselves interoperable with competitors, for example, while operating systems will need to be designed to offer third-party app stores and allow developers to offer alternative in-app payment options.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good. At least there's one significant regulatory body on this planet that understands how a capitalistic system is meant to be regulated. You don't need something to be an actual, 100% monopoly before you take the kid gloves off and force them to cooperate with other businesses.

[–] randomaccount43543@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Full list of gatekeepers' core platform services that must comply with the Digital Markets Act:

  • Social Networks: TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn
  • N-IICS (aka messaging services): WhatsApp, Messenger
  • Intermediation: Google Maps, Google Play, Google Shopping, Amazon Marketplace, Apple’s App Store, Meta Marketplace
  • Video Sharing: YouTube
  • Advertising services: Google, Amazon, Meta
  • Web Browsers: Chrome, Safari
  • Search: Google Search
  • Operating Systems: Android, iOS, Windows
[–] Rinox@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google Shopping

is Google Shopping really used that much?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] randomaccount43543@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. I guess you are using Google Shopping every time you make a Google search of a product, even though you don’t notice it.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lets go! I like the sound of this! Windows will have to stop force-feeding bing, edge, 365, and all their garbage!

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 21 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The European Commission has officially confirmed which tech companies, and which of their services, count as “gatekeepers” under its strict new Digital Markets Act (DMA).

Broadly, the DMA is the EU’s attempt to rein in the market power of Big Tech by opening up entrenched platforms and curbing ecosystem lock-in and anti-competitive behavior, making them compete on the merits of their products and services alone.

Samsung, which appeared on the previous list, successfully argued that it does not meet the threshold for being a gatekeeper with its internet browser.

Likewise Microsoft’s Bing search engine, Edge browser, and advertising service are not on the list, but the Commission says it’s opening market investigations to assess whether they meet the bar for regulation.

The Commission has said these investigation will take no more than five months, but could result in Apple being forced to make iMessage interoperable with competing services upon request.

Meanwhile the likes of Google Search (and Bing, if it ends up being included) will have to give their users a choice of other search engines, while operating system providers will need to offer the ability to uninstall pre-installed apps and change system defaults like virtual assistants and web browsers.


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[–] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Bing dodged a bullet

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, where's iMessage? That's like one of the most popular messaging apps lmao

[–] hotdoge42@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess, but not too far behind relative to smaller messaging services right, seeing as Apple has 26% of the smartphone market share in the EU? And shouldn't their global reach be at least somewhat considered? Seems like regulation aimed to allow smaller businesses to gain market share is letting one of the biggest companies in the world slip through.

[–] h4wk3y3@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

26% means that you cannot use it to talk to 74% of your friends. So European users usually use a service that runs equally well on iOS and Android.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Right, but my point was more that since a quarter of the EU uses iPhone they have iMessage by default, which could then quickly increase their userbase to a top competitor if they're able to increase their EU smartphone market share.

[–] rippersnapper@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People in EU use mostly WhatsApp and Messenger, cuz most people don't have iPhones

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Really? I thought apple is a trillion dollar company because of europeans but guess its americans giving apple all their money lol

[–] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

they have 5 months to prove that it's not a gatekeeping service, if they cannot do that then it will be added to the list. the list gets updated every 6 months.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Best time to be in Europe. I am applying for my Swiss visa.

[–] georgette@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Switzerland isn't part of the European Union, only the Schengen zone. So company's won't have to decide by these laws in Switzerland

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We might only hope this regulatory body has more teeth than their Amerikan counterparts. Otherwise, these megacorps will just pay the fine-- which will no doubt be seen as little more than "the cost of 'doing business'" for them.

[–] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"What will be the consequences of non-compliance?

Fines: of up to 10% of the company’s total worldwide annual turnover, or up to 20% in the event of repeated infringements"

it's a tough pill to swallow.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Microsoft had an annual turnover of 212 billion USD in 2023, so a 10% fine of that would be 21,2 billion dollars. Yeah I think they'd rather comply

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really looking forward to seeing what the actual demands end up being.

[–] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

if you mean demands of eu then they're all clear:

https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/about-dma_en

[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea if this is going to trickle back and benefit America at all

[–] Audbol@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hope for MacOS not make the list? It's probably the most gate kept thing that exists