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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can’t believe the Thatcherite dipshit has given up on fixing the economy in favour of lazy culture wars bullshit. No wait, I absolutely can believe that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Libertarianism in theory: "I just want to be left alone!"

Libertarianism in practice: "We just privatized your pronouns. You now owe Noun-Corp $7300."

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Most "libertarians" in the world are just conservatives who don't like the label. The fraction of them who actually embrace libertarianism in its truest form, especially when given any amount of power, is vanishingly small.

[–] m13@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always said “Libertarians” (ignoring the fact that the word originally referred to libertarian socialists) are just conservatives who like weed and pedophilia.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thats cause libertaianism isn't a viable form of government, it technically can only lead to anarchy, but I feel like it's used more by conservatives as a cover.

If you haven't this is a great book about a town that tried to see what libertarian policies actually lead - https://www.amazon.com/Libertarian-Walks-Into-Bear-Liberate/dp/1541788516

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Thats cause libertaianism isn’t a viable form of government

Its viable in so far as it is a marketing slogan used to distract and disguise the policy these assholes genuinely want to impose.

The libertarian mantras are seductive and libertarian populism - the theory of perfect economic independence via personal strength - is appealing to upwardly mobile / financially secure portions of the electorate. Using "the government" as a rhetorical punching bag when you're out of power means you're never on the wrong side of an issue. Whatever anyone's complaint, you can sympathize by complaining that the government is doing things wrong.

If you haven’t this is a great book about a town that tried to see what libertarian policies actually lead

Its worth noting how and why these folks took power originally. Lots of money spent on advertising combined with a personal beef with the existing city council that had them undermining the basic functions of government even before they took office. Lots of empty promises and outright slanders of sitting officials. And a city that was already in financial decline, without a state or federal government willing to spend counter-cyclically and get them back on their feet.

This isn't just a failure of libertarianism. The libertarianism is a symptom of a broader failure of a laisse-faire national economy.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter to me, but I understand that the prohibition applies to official documents (which frankly seems fine to me because they have to be as neutral as possible) and nothing more.

It's not that for saying "TODES" in an AFIP department they're going to cut you off.

Basically, you can talk like a mental retard if you want, but in official communication a certain degree of professionalism and correctness is expected.

In the same way that an official document should never say "tipo asi como ke ah re que la ley esta que zakamos esta ree picada perro, se prohibe la letra EEE" If you want to talk like that, you donyou, in official settings, NO.

The best thing is that the 2,000 departments of the state stop spending on "educational" resources. Don't forget that there is gender management secretary, which is 50 people per entity because it is required some type of gender graduate to "authorize" that the communication is correctly following the norms on a gender focus.

Well, no, now it is not necessary to spend a fortune on "educational" resources.

Waste of money like few others

But muh freedomz!

Don't take "freedom" as an absolute of "ah, so I can do whatever I want ña ña". The regulations still exist. In this case because the official documents are written in the official language. Not with idioms, not with slang, not with emojis, not with cartoons, not with colloquial language.

And that doesn't make you "less free."

If someone in public administration wants to write text message style documentation? They can't, is that going against freedom? No.

But it is not prohibiting freedom in a private sphere, it is in official documents. If tomorrow at work I start writing technical documentation in Esperanto, they will put a bullet in my ass.

So, no brother, you can't write public documents however you want, because everyone has to understand you. It's a job. Inclusive language promotes a political agenda that the voters of this government do not share.

The big problem Kirchnerists have behind this is that inclusive language ended up becoming Kirchnerist language. It became something of the party's identity. If the intention had really been to change the way people express themselves, the strategy of sticking it to specifically this party didn't work. They should have sought followers across the political spectrum.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you don’t understand the position you’re attacking or the word “neutral.”

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Read again then. You clearly understood nothing

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I understand that “neutral” doesn’t take a position and explicitly gendered language does. I understand that using generic (not gendered) plural third person pronouns in a singular form is both grammatically correct and universally accepted in languages that do not already have a gender-neutral pronoun. Notice the use “neutral” in “gender-neutral” to refer to the generic (not gendered) pronoun.

I don’t understand where you explain how a lack of gender-neutral pronouns is neutral. Could you show me where you did that? If you didn’t, you “clearly” don’t understand the point I was making.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Bro you need to learn Spanish, you clearly understand nothing