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A 27-year-old man was killed and 24 other people were shot after gunfire erupted early Sunday morning in Akron, Ohio, during what a police official said was a big birthday party.

Officers responded to 911 calls shortly after midnight, reporting shots fired and multiple victims struck in the area of Kelly Ave. and 8th Ave., according to a statement from the city’s mayor and police chief.

The shooting took place during a “large birthday party” that earlier in the night had more than 200 people in attendance, Akron Police Chief Brian Harding said in a Sunday evening news conference.

In the shooting’s aftermath, authorities found the scene “littered” with spent shell casings that stretched down a whole block, the police chief said.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I know that people hate hearing it, but the violence--specifically gun violence--is a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.

This was likely gang activity. Gang activity is driven by a lot of socioeconomic factors; long-term fixes are things like community reinvestment, properly funded education, reducing income inequality, criminal justice reform, and so on. Even things like reproductive rights and access to birth control and abortion help rather significantly here. If you fix the underlying issues that drive gang activity in the first place, then you eliminate most of the violence problem without also affecting civil rights.

Unfortunately, in the US, one side appears to only have the political will to remove a particular civil right, and the other side wants to obstruct everything and blame it on all "personal responsibility".

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know that people hate hearing it, but the violence–specifically gun violence–is a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.

This was likely gang activity.

I'm not sure that makes sense, you're arguing that gangs, not guns are the problem when every country has gangs but not every country has guns so readily available.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Doctors treat symptoms while they treat the problem, they don't just offer you thoughts and prayers. Even if the problem isn't treatable, they still do everything in their power to control your symptoms.

Imagine you turned up to a doctor with every bone in your hand broken, only to have them claim "Sorry, we refuse to give you painkillers because the pain is just a symptom. If someone just spends 12 months reconstructing your hand, the symptoms should be mostly gone. I won't do it (and I'll staunchly oppose anyone that tries), but that's the real solution".

They wouldn't just be considered a dogshit doctor, they'd be considered a genuinely evil person.

So stop with the apologist bullshit. No gun control advocates are stopping you from building your violence-free utopia that you insist will solve everything. The society we have today is fucked up and you need to stop selling them guns.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

blame it on all “personal responsibility”.

As I get older I think the mistake is thinking this is a black or white issue. I think instead its more like a mix of personal responsibility and other factors all come together and all sides argue about it being either or only.

And in a case where a decision like this is made, I feel personal responsibilities are a huge factor.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh look another shooting

My ability to care has just been sucked out of me by the immense number of them. So fucked

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It’s not just you either, even as recently as 2022 there used to be at minimum a full day of non stop news coverage every time there was a mass shooting. These days it takes multiple fatalities to get that

[–] dorumon@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Wait, was it your party?!