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Donald Trump has been found guilty of using a criminal hush-money scheme to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

The verdict came after a jury deliberated for less than twelve hours in the unprecedented first criminal trial against a US president. It marks a perilous political moment for Trump, the presumptive nominee for the Republican nomination, whose poll numbers have remained unchanged throughout the trial but could tank at any moment.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 171 points 5 months ago (4 children)

So the Republican nominee is a thirty-four time convicted felon?

I guess I can be president too someday.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Convicted felons can run for office. They just can’t vote in the election.

I desperately want him to lose Florida by one vote. His own.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Florida says he can vote based on the conviction being in NY, and in NY he can vote unless he’s incarcerated.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which is how it should be in Florida, and everywhere. People shouldn't continue to be punished after serving their time.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 months ago

They should be able to vote in jail too. Otherwise an authoritarian could just lock up their political opponents, especially in swing states.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah. Bummer. I believe he can only vote in his home state of Florida, but it makes sense that the NY conviction doesn’t restrict his rights in another state. Thanks for the correction.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Here is a better worded article snip from wapo:

Under Florida law, those convicted of crimes in other states cannot vote if they are barred from voting in the state where they committed their offenses, according to the U.S. Vote Foundation. New York law bars felons from voting while they are incarcerated but not when they are on probation or parole, according to the foundation and Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt. Trump has not been sentenced yet and could remain free while he appeals his convictions. That means Trump will probably be allowed to cast a ballot as long as he is not behind bars this fall.

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[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Yup you just have to go on TV, act like an asshole constantly, and gain a cult like following from the dumbest Americans imaginable.

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Could someone explain how it's possible for him to be running for president?

Like, are there no laws against this? Is the only requirement for the person to have a pulse?

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

If felonies prevented people from holding government positions just imagine how many bogus charges would be leveled at the GOP's enemies just to see if anything stuck. Just look at how Russia throws bogus charges at people to prevent them from running against Putin.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The U.S. Constitution states that the president must:

  • Be a natural-born citizen of the United States.
  • Be at least 35 years old.
  • Have been a resident of the United States for 14 years.
[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It's kind of like the scene "there ain't no rule a dog can't play basketball" from Air Bud. The constitution has set minimum qualifications to be president, but didn't bother with the disqualifications because it would be insane to try to conceive of every possible scenario that would disqualify an individual from seeking the presidency.

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[–] resin85@lemmy.ca 123 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Hahahaha.... he can't even visit Canada now. "Criminally inadmissible". Great head of state you're voting for republicans.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/inadmissibility/overcome-criminal-convictions.html

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Does this constitute a felony not of moral turpitude?

Cause if so, he can’t vote for himself in his home state.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He committed a felony of moral turpitude. He's permanently inadmissible.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If he can't vote for himself then he should not be on the ballot

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 months ago

And republicans, the "Law and Order" party, will still vote for this man.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 88 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’m sure this will be endlessly delayed by every kind of legal maneuver possible, and I personally don’t expect the sentence to include prison time, but I don’t care. The motherfucker has been found GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS. That’s good enough for me.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

They don't even have to delay endlessly.

They just need to say it's all rigged against him, take the presidency and pardon himself and his cronies.

His base thinks falsifying records is "smart" and the banks are dumb for falling for it. They still think he's a stable genius

[–] jj122@lemmings.world 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He can't pardon himself from a state crime.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago

Ha, you say that like laws are gonna matter when he takes office.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

President can't pardon state crimes.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 months ago

Not with that attitude. You need the 'tear down the rule of law from the foundation up' attitude that Trump has.

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[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I trust the tough on crime Republicans will be appalled and change their vote since they're so against felons being involved in the democratic process--or are those just the darker-skinned ones it applies to?

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 22 points 5 months ago

"Not like that" - Republikkklowns.

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[–] nailingjello@lemmy.zip 50 points 5 months ago (3 children)

From CNN:

Judge Juan Merchan sets a sentencing hearing for July 11 at 10 a.m. ET

Seems like a long delay, is that typical in a high profile case like this?

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He has another trial in Florida they had to schedule around.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Its weird that thats going on again, what happened to the indefinite suspension?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, you see, he's got money and a few like-minded friends...

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He has make believe money in the stock market and properties he doesn't want to sell but apparently no cash.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

He did just sell a jet for $10mil+ to raise money to pay legal fees. It turning out that the sale has some possibly illegal parts so now it's turning into the latest criming on his docket to deal with, though.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

He somehow turns every simple interaction into a felony.

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[–] Willie@kbin.social 32 points 5 months ago

They requested the delay to July, since he is in court for another case in another area. I suppose it was reasonable to grant it. It'd be unfair for someone to not get their right to a trial, even if they were found guilty of a crime in another area.

It'd make more sense to keep him in custody in the meantime though. I mean, that's what they do for normal people. Right?

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This dude is such a sleazy scum. Well done republicans you have picked a winner.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're not sending their best. They're sending rapists, druggies, felons, and racists in a single package.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

grab him by the pussy

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

(Trump's) poll numbers have remained unchanged throughout the trial but could tank at any moment.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/nx-s1-4974598/trump-verdict-trial-voters-presidential-election

NPR polling indicates that only a small percentage of Republicans would be affected by a guilty verdict.

11 % of independents said they'd be less likely to vote for Trump.

Small amounts of Republicans would be less likely to vote for Trump with a guilty verdict. I believe that I heard 7% on the radio, but I can't find a news article to back that up.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

I highly doubt any 2024 Republican, let alone 7%, have any actual reservations whatsoever about casting their vote directly for Trump.

Like: I think I can safely say 7% of Republican voters are obligate grifters and liars too for its worth.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

(Trump's) poll numbers have remained unchanged throughout the trial but could tank at any moment.

Bold statement!

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[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 5 months ago (7 children)
[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

realest question in the thread

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[–] acannan@programming.dev 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Very cool, and very legal!

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This reminds me of that simpsons episode where Sideshow Bob becomes republican mayor via voter fraud.

Kinda nice to actually see the court and sentencing part happen in real life instead of another dr evil retiring with zero consequences.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

So far it's largely just a historical footnote. Wait until sentencing before you get too excited. I'd wager those consequences you speak of are mostly wishful thinking.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I had to Google this to make sure it was real.

Now is he gonna be like Bannon and ignore sentencing because there are no consequences for doing so?

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