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Aircraft maker Boeing is expected to commit to sweeping changes on Thursday in a new plan meant to reassure the public, airline customers and regulators that the troubled company’s planes are safe to fly.

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Put. Engineers. Back. In. Charge.

All of the C-suite, except maybe the CFO, should be aerospace engineers. That's how it was back when Boeing made great planes; how to fix the company isn't rocket science. Just get rid off all the MBAs.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you SAY /s, buuuuuuuuuut, thats how we actually got here.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Sad thing is, McDonnell Douglas was also founded by an engineer, but they're the ones who screwed up Boeing.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Execs should be drawn and quartered

[–] tezoatlipoca@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The changes include clearer instructions for the assembly line, training improvements and more tools. The company says it has also ordered each station be completed before a plane moves on the assembly line and directed Spirit to not ship defective fuselages to Boeing’s Renton plant.

Oh.. for fucks sake. You can't tell the people at the bottom to work better-er when they've been trying to work better-er for a decade and their efforts get shit on .

Interview every team lead and department head that has ever raised a quality/safety/non-conformance. Then interview/audit every executive those issues were reported TO. And if they can't provide a very very very good reason (i.e. not "$money$") for why those issues weren't actioned then they get fired. Every fucking one. Then promote a bunch of engineers.

Boeing used to be a great company when the engineers ran it. Now its shit because the MBAs in expensive suits run it.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Useless admin managers blaming the engineers lol

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

directed Spirit to not ship defective fuselages to Boeing’s Renton plant

Well that's one way to make your numbers look better: just hide the defects at another plant!

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

This is an excellent summary of the problem

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 17 points 1 year ago

“could suggest”

A weak qualification on top of a weak qualification. Awesome.

[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The MBA was the worst thing to happen to the human race

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I’d argue money, but either way.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Are they going to stop hiring hitmen? That would be a positive change. How about following up on safety concerns rather than burying them? That's a pretty good idea too.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is going to take at least 10 year to unfuck their company culture and much longer to unfuck their reputation.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not to mention the problems that are likely to pop up as all the planes they built over the last 5 years start to age. Systemic quality issues lead to systemic problems. I very much doubt that all these problems we're starting to see at what should be the beginning of a plane model's lifespan are the end of the story. Get ready for a whack-a-mole of problems coming up over the next 20 years. Doesn't matter how much they change, it won't undo all the lemons that have already been built.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This helps nothing.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

at least they didnt say using AI to do inspections, yet

[–] half@lemy.lol 4 points 1 year ago

I would fucking hope their plan to change their company involved some fucking changes. No fucking shit, Sherlock.

Feeling a smidgen of rage. Pardon my outburst.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

“Could”?!

“Naw. We’re just gonna keep going. Maybe take out a few more whistleblowers. Possibly take some VIPs for a flight. You know. To show them how “safe” it is…”

[–] valen@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

That won't convince me that the existing planes are safe.