Put. Engineers. Back. In. Charge.
All of the C-suite, except maybe the CFO, should be aerospace engineers. That's how it was back when Boeing made great planes; how to fix the company isn't rocket science. Just get rid off all the MBAs.
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But shareholder value!
/s
I mean, you SAY /s, buuuuuuuuuut, thats how we actually got here.
Sad thing is, McDonnell Douglas was also founded by an engineer, but they're the ones who screwed up Boeing.
Execs should be drawn and quartered
The changes include clearer instructions for the assembly line, training improvements and more tools. The company says it has also ordered each station be completed before a plane moves on the assembly line and directed Spirit to not ship defective fuselages to Boeing’s Renton plant.
Oh.. for fucks sake. You can't tell the people at the bottom to work better-er when they've been trying to work better-er for a decade and their efforts get shit on .
Interview every team lead and department head that has ever raised a quality/safety/non-conformance. Then interview/audit every executive those issues were reported TO. And if they can't provide a very very very good reason (i.e. not "$money$") for why those issues weren't actioned then they get fired. Every fucking one. Then promote a bunch of engineers.
Boeing used to be a great company when the engineers ran it. Now its shit because the MBAs in expensive suits run it.
Useless admin managers blaming the engineers lol
directed Spirit to not ship defective fuselages to Boeing’s Renton plant
Well that's one way to make your numbers look better: just hide the defects at another plant!
This is an excellent summary of the problem
“could suggest”
A weak qualification on top of a weak qualification. Awesome.
The MBA was the worst thing to happen to the human race
I’d argue money, but either way.
Are they going to stop hiring hitmen? That would be a positive change. How about following up on safety concerns rather than burying them? That's a pretty good idea too.
It is going to take at least 10 year to unfuck their company culture and much longer to unfuck their reputation.
Not to mention the problems that are likely to pop up as all the planes they built over the last 5 years start to age. Systemic quality issues lead to systemic problems. I very much doubt that all these problems we're starting to see at what should be the beginning of a plane model's lifespan are the end of the story. Get ready for a whack-a-mole of problems coming up over the next 20 years. Doesn't matter how much they change, it won't undo all the lemons that have already been built.
This helps nothing.
at least they didnt say using AI to do inspections, yet
I would fucking hope their plan to change their company involved some fucking changes. No fucking shit, Sherlock.
Feeling a smidgen of rage. Pardon my outburst.
“Could”?!
“Naw. We’re just gonna keep going. Maybe take out a few more whistleblowers. Possibly take some VIPs for a flight. You know. To show them how “safe” it is…”
That won't convince me that the existing planes are safe.