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Sam Altman fired as CEO of ChatGPT maker OpenAI in shock move (www.aljazeera.com)

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 120 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I imagine this is about financial chicanery or sex pesting but the funniest outcome would be if they just replaced him with ChatGPT to save money. If there’s any job a chatbot can do today, it’s CEO.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

financial chicanery

I'm sure he's failing to find further funding in the current interest rate market and their business model frankly has no profitability end in sight. Running all those computing resources for free is a road to ruin.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It actually seems to be the opposite - Altman focussing on commercialization, whereas the board wants to continue the non-commercial focus.

I really hope this is the case.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh wow, I assumed the main source of problems for this business was because creating models based on sampling the works of others was ethically dubious leading to lawsuits and bans in several countries. But no. It's their CEO's business model not aligning with the board.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not to mention be sued by everyone whose copyrighted work was used.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That was my guess. I can imagine a situation where he was deliberately understating or obfuscating how vulnerable they were in that regard, or else simply overconfident they were legally in the clear.

[–] delitomatoes@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

AI has been replacing the board members and now has control of the company

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

The evitable conflict looms

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The reasons are probably fairly boring but it'd be kinda funny if they hit AGI and now everyone is in freakout mode behind the scenes.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

This is a turning point that could be either really good or bad, depending on who you ask. Senior developers also left due to the news.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Guess he wasn’t open after all.

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn’t this this the plot of Silicon Valley?

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Didn't everyone leave the company? I was reading that also the head of research is gone

[–] Buck@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All of the senior positions are now listed as Clippy. I have a bad feeling about this...

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

All good bro, they automated their processes with AI, so now they need fewer employees

[–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Chat GPT would've given him a heads up if he asked...

[+] drdabbles@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Awful lot of comments here pretending he didn't rape his sister. I wonder why.

Edit: I love that the replies I'm getting literally prove my point. Real repulsive shit.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was a series of three tweets and no follow-up. I wouldn't necessarily assert it so strongly.

[+] drdabbles@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

... she's talked about it multiple times for two years. Sort of a gross look to pretend a victim hasn't discussed being a victim on multiple occasions. Do you work for his PR group, or are you just a toxic fan?

[–] dax@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What the hell? How about leaving such matters to courts? While terrible if true, I'll hold of judging until something is proven. It's too easy to ruin someone's life with false accusations.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

False accusations. The favorite bogeyman of rape apologists.

[–] Mafflez@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except it isn't always a fucking real accusation. Look into the proJared shit. He got accused of cheating or something similar and everyone raked him over and guess what...bitch that accused him was lying cause SHE was the abuser.

A personal example, two ppl I know personally and one at the time intimately, had sex guy just turned 18 girl was 15. They got drunk and had sex, she regretted it or told her parents who freaked out and long story short he got sent to prison for rape when it was confirmed consensual by her IN COURT and in private messages to myself and others.

So no the court of law is literally innocent until proven guilty for a reason and specifically cause of shit like this. You cab have whatever opinion you like but wait till you have proof not just words to back it up. Always. People like you would be shitty jurors and shittier judges and lawyers. You do not condem anyone unless you have no shadow of a doubt they did it without evidence. Ever.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Sorry, did you just equate a claim of cheating to a claim of rape?

had sex guy just turned 18 girl was 15

So, statutory rape. Got it. Parents exercised their legal guardian right and left it to the courts to decide whether it was permissible or not. Glad you found out how the system works.

So no the court of law is literally innocent until proven guilty

Now, by your own statement here your friend that had sex with an underaged girl is guilty. Thanks for playing your own stupid game. Enjoy your stupid prizes.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh?

[+] drdabbles@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's the question? His sister has talked about him raping her multiple times. But since he's got a lot of sci-fi weirdo fans that sweep that kind of thing under the rug for him, he hasn't really had to address it.

Most of the comments in this thread are about "I mAgINe if AI Did IT?"

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh. I just hadn’t heard about it. Fucked up if true . Searching for his name now just talks about current news. Wikipedia holds nothing. Do you have a credible source for this?

[+] drdabbles@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally Google his name and the word sister. Not only will articles come up, but her original Twitter threads do too. Starts in 2021.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So no proof? Just tweets?

[+] drdabbles@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

...from the victim. What a shit thing to say. But I guess hero worship tends to make toxic people look the other way on rape pretty often, so I shouldn't be surprised.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Without proof there is no victim. It's just a person speaking about another person. I don't go around sentencing random people with unconfirmed charges. Innocent until proven guilty.

I don't give a shit about this man in the slightest. I didn't even know who the CEO was until today. However, people spouting a tweet like it's hard evidence is so stupid it really makes you wonder how someone can be that dumb.

If it did happen then it's terrible but without proof there isn't any way to prove it.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well for sure what he needs is you here defending him. Nice work. All the concern you express is for him, none for her. And it's not "a tweet", it's multiple threads over 2 years. Strange you're trivializing the allegations like that. It's surprising to me when weirdos choose to defend against rape allegations, more so when it's incest and child related. And for some reason there's always the tech fans doing it. Normally I'd wonder why, but I'm sure you have your legitimate reasons to pretend a little girl wasn't raped by an older brother.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whatever you need to quantify your reasoning is fine. I do apologize I called you stupid and it was uncalled for. I am sure that you believe what you say to be right and true or justice. I do not know where you are from but where I live you are innocent until proven guilty. Until actual evidence in produced the man in question is innocent. If one day evidence is provided that isn't just hearsay then I will change my mind. I do not defend anyone because there is no one to defend.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bet you'll be first on the ground defending him if evidence came to light, but I do wonder, what evidence would you find acceptable? What evidence would you consider credible enough for you to accept someone has alleged multiple forms of abuse from an elder sibling during childhood?

My guess is literally nothing.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To simple test really, you find the closest river you tie him to a chair and you dunk him if he drowns he was innocent and if he lives he was guilty. However, if you drowns the sister is put to the flame.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

We're going to need a duck and some tiny pebbles.

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As someone who has been falsely accused the assumption of guilt is unfair. Tweets are not evidence.

[+] drdabbles@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lmfao. Flat out do not believe you.

[–] crystal@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was raped

I believe you no doubt

I was falsely accused

Flat out do not believe you

I'm not sure if you care, but you are being very hypocritical.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

... By pointing out the fact their post isn't evidence? Hmmm. It's funny how so many "tech" fans will instantly dismiss rape allegations made by women, but immediately believe some random loser claiming they were wrongly accused. Almost like there's a systemic problem here.

[–] crystal@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never said I believe them.

You either believe both the rape victim and the accusation victim, or you believe neither.

Only believing one of them is hypocritical.

I personally believe both of them to be some person on the internet who's words do not matter. I do not consider either of the two claims to be worth listening to.

Innocent until proven. Always.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Equivalency and idiotic. One of them is a claim about a violent sex act which statistically speaking false claims almost never happened. The other asshole is defending rape allegations.

I understand you guys have a hard time seeing another man in power me questioned, probably because of her daddy issues. The fact of them is his sister stands to gain nothing and stands to lose everything. She is made claims about her abuse of the hands of both of her brothers, and rather than show even the slightest. Bit of curiosity, empathy, or any other human traits, some real pieces of shit have shown up here defending him and claiming she is made these accusations up whole cloth.

That's called rape apologetics, and I'll have no fucking part of it. I didn't say he was guilty, the case hasn't been brought to trial. I've made a judgment of my own and I find that when a woman claims she has been raped from an early age by a family member that tends to stick with the overwhelming cases of incest, child rape, and all other rape on record. It's almost always a family member or someone the family knows, and pieces of shit almost always make excuses for why.

Consider carefully which side of the issue you want to be on.

[–] crystal@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because its both irrelevant to the topic (unless that's the reason he was fired, which I doubt) and a mere allegation. Innocent until proven guilty.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago

I'm betting the board doesn't think incest rape is good for the brand. Good thing he has heroes like you to defend him, otherwise raping his sister might actually tarnish his image.