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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

donald trump gets 10 warnings for intimidating witnesses and indefinite trial postponement for hoarding and most likely leaking classified documents. Sweet sweet justice.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People keep trying to convince me it's not evidence of two justice systems.

 

But it is.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's evidence that we live in corporatocracies masquerading as "democracies". The 0.1%, shielded by the liability protections of the corporations they own, and their armies of lobbyists — they finance our politics, choose who ends up on the ballot, and shadow write most of our legislation, policies, and regulations.

Trump is free because he is a part of that < 0.1%.

The Boeing execs who oversaw systemic fraud, lied to the FAA, and murdered 166 people still ARE FREE AND RICH. Why? Because they are the 0.1%.

The IPCC hosts fossil fuelled climate summits in fossil fuel exporting countries, inviting fossil fuel corporations and lobbyists to attend — at a scientific conference about how to solve the crisis they created and profited from! why? Because we live in corporatocracies.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The US is a kleptocracy, we're ruled by the people who have looted the public

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[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think this is a consequence of any (unregulated) capitalistic system in general. The system is founded on money, more money will give anyone more influence and power over the system

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's a consequence of our "growth at all costs" take on capitalism. Capitalism is only livable for the average person when it's kept in check by a strong government and corruption is vigorously prosecuted. We've decided that corruption just happens and there's nothing we can do about it, and so there are no disincentives to corrupting government.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It's the subtle difference between a JUSTICE system and a LEGAL system.

One aims to maintain law and order in society in a fair and equal way regardless of one's status or situation.

The other is a system gamed to benefit the richest and wealthiest individuals to get away with everything.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For the record, Aaron Swartz never actually went to trial, nor was he "sentenced" to anything.

Federal prosecutors came after him with overzealous charges in an effort to make him accept a plea deal (they do that a lot), which he rejected. It would have gone to court where the feds would have had to justify the charges they were bringing.

But that never happened because he killed himself.

We don't actually know how this all would have played out.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The comment in OPs post is misleading but he did nevertheless kill himself because of the justice system trying to prosecute him for accessing science most likely funded by public money in the first place.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Look, the kid was a hero, but this is also patently false.

He was not sentenced to 35 years. The trial hadn't started. 35 years was the maximum possible sentence. He was given a plea deal for 6 months that he rejected.

We don't need to spin lies to make his story more tragic than it already is.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

35 years max, plea for 1/2 that was rejected. He was going to get the book thrown at him to make an example. 5 years minimum but I wouldn't doubt 10-20.

The rapist traitor that headed a insurrection on Jan 6 2021 has never spent a day in jail and is still the frontrunner for president to be legally elected in 2024.

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 1 year ago

He committed the idealist's perennial sin: He thought that because the system is bullshit, it's okay not to play ball with it.

"Hey this is a bunch of crap. I can be guilty or innocent, and the right move is always to plead guilty even if I didn't do a damn thing wrong, because if I try to fight the case they're gonna tack on a ton of new charges and they almost always win and I might go away for most of my life."

"Preach."

"I'm gonna plead not guilty because I didn't do anything wrong."

"No no no no no that is not the way to reform the system no no no that is a bad mistake"

Aaron Swartz was a fuckin hero. Read his posthumous book, it is wonderful. But the same idealism and faith that led him to the good things he did in his painfully short time here, also led him not to understand how to engage with the US federal government and keep your skin.

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[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Articles paid for by the public through grants btw

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With authors often paying for open access publications literally out of their very own money, not just grants.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not at the time this happened. Aaron's case was one of the motivating factors that led to the Open Access publication movement gaining enough traction that authors could publish that way. JSTOR access is paid for and administered on college campuses by libraries and librarians as a whole field felt terrible both about the paid publication system and the way Aaron was treated. As a community of professionals, the Librarian and Information Science community pushed very hard for the adoption of Open Access publishing into the Academic community.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

Good to know we had something very good out of this.

Now, let's beat the living hell out of publishers so that those crazy open access publication prices would decimate.

Because right now, I literally cannot afford publishing further than Q3, which already eats up most of my personal grant earnings (which are so bad I can say I work purely for an idea).

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Shout out to Alexandra elbakyan. She continues part of aaron's work by running sci-hub and libgen, but lives safely out of reach of the american criminal "justice" system 💔

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, it wasn't even illegal since these scientific articles should have been public to begin with because they used public funds.

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

That may be so, but IIRC he was charged with breaking into MIT's networking room and illegally tapping into their network to get the articles:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261840/Aaron-Swartz-MIT-surveillance-shot-ruined-tragic-Reddit-founders-life.html

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That also may be so, but 35 years is fucked up for that. pretty sure child porn first time offenders is like 15 to 30 so hacking MIT for stuff that should have been free gets you more jail time then a first CP offence. OK thats fucked up

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oil CEOs pay fines for bringing about a global climate catastrophe. Fascist politicians are given slaps on the wrist for an attempted coup d'etat. Government officials openly commit gross violations of privacy and suffer no consequences.

But a guy hacks a university network and downloads a hoard of scientific articles that should have been freely accessible to begin with and he gets 35 years in prison. I'll admit I wasn't familiar with this case before I saw this picture. Which is kind of insane in and of itself.

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Remember Kim Dotcom? He had a file sharing website and the police raided his house with guns like he was a dangerous criminal. There is a video of it on YouTube.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is propaganda he got sucicided. And he didnt transfer or share scientific articles he simply downloaded them thats all. This poat is extremely damaging as its almost correct juat slightly shifting the commonly accepted reality of history. This is not the first time I've seen posts about him here doing a simmillar thing this raises the question who's trying to rewrite history and what for?

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit could've been so good with him at the helm...

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Good thing we've got a second opportunity. ;)

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He likely wouldn’t’ve stayed. We’d be better off with him anyways. He was moving towards activism and politics. He’d probably either be a prisoner or a congressman by now. And like honestly, we could use a congressman like him.

[–] Hubi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He didn't even share them as far as I know, he just downloaded them. And the trial hadn't started yet when he committed suicide.

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[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I highly recommend watching the documentary on him, Internet's own boy.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He didn't transfer or share he only downloaded.

[–] Evrala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's also likely that he was never intending to share them. One of the things he was looking to do is aquire a large dataset to analyze trends.

In other words, he was charged for entirely legit use.

i would say jstor are cunts, but actually it's the US government that were being cunts here.

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