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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 260 points 4 months ago (27 children)

Looking over the wikipedia page on this mushroom and all the similar, very edible ones...Yeah I'm never foraging mushrooms.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

chanterelles are pretty safe to forage if they grow near you.

they are very distinct looking.

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[–] AnarchoCummunist@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago (4 children)

And this is why I grow my own. I'm very fond of Albino Texas PE6. Easy to grow, consistent, and you can clone and agar spawn over and over again. Such an aggressive little strain. And looks very distinct. Unmistakable.

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Mushroom foraging can be safe, but the rules are:

  • Always learn from a local guide first. It's not transferable to other regions. Which makes books a bad way to do it, and the internet a horrible way.

  • You don't rule out dangerous mushrooms, you identify a specific edible mushroom.

  • Never trust a little white mushroom.

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[–] Devdogg@lemmy.ml 173 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There are old mushroom foragers and then there are bold ones. There are no bold, old mushroom foragers.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago (9 children)

There are no bold, old mushroom foragers

Sure there are, they just have to not eat what they picked up.

Source: friend's mom once gave food poisoning to the whole family by serving them an omelet made with mushrooms she found, but didn't eat it herself. Fortunately it was merely mushrooms of the "fucks up your stomach" variety.

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[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 170 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Looks like a destroying angel (e.g. Amanita virosa) to me. This and the death cap together account for the vast majority of mushroom poisonings in the world. Cooking it will not destroy the toxins, nor will acid. Symptoms tend to appear 5-24 hours after eating, too late to pump the stomach. Half a mushroom can be enough to kill you.

I don't recommend going out to pick mushrooms unless you know what you're doing. If you do, stay away from the white ones. You can still get terrible stomach cramps and diarrhea from other colors of mushrooms, but the white ones have the most dangerous species.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Easiest way to avoid problems I've heard is to never pick any mushroom with ribbed underside. If the underside looks like a sponge, it's usually safe to eat. At least where I'm from.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 54 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Might be valid advice for some regions, I don't know. But mushrooms tend to vary quite a bit in appearance. Sometimes ribbed species don't have very visible ribs, or younger mushrooms don't quite have all the characteristics of their mature form. If you really want to get into picking mushrooms, there's often local groups you can join with a resident expert who can tell you which ones are safe.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Rule of thumb with mushrooms is that these id tricks tend to be regional and not always accurate unfortunately. Nature is a bit more of a kaleidoscope.

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. Don't trust a stranger on the internet to help you avoid death.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 66 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Neural networks are magical anywhere that near misses are good enough.

Companies keep using them as if they're infallible, when lives and fortunes are at stake.

Tech is not the problem.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Tech is ravenously trying to convince the world they need AI for every aspect of their business. Tech wants you to think LLMs are infallible and they strongly imply that they are even if the fine print says otherwise. So personally I would say tech is very much part of the problem. One could say they are the root of the problem in fact.

[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think he’s referring to literal technology itself as “Tech” and you’re referring to the people trying to sell it as “Tech”—aka “Big-Tech” as some would say

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 17 points 4 months ago

Yup, sounds like a classic miscommunication. I think we should all compromise and just agree capitalism is the problem lol.

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 27 points 4 months ago

I don't think the tech is the problem, it's the business drones trying to sell you it

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Amanita bisporigera, or the aptly named eastern North American destroying angel, if anyone's wondering.

From Wikipedia:

The principal amatoxin, α-amanitin, is readily absorbed across the intestine, and 60% of the absorbed toxin is excreted into bile and undergoes enterohepatic circulation; the kidneys clear the remaining 40%. The toxin inhibits the enzyme RNA polymerase II, thereby interfering with DNA transcription, which suppresses RNA production and protein synthesis. This causes cellular necrosis, especially in cells which are initially exposed and have rapid rates of protein synthesis. This process results in severe acute liver dysfunction and, ultimately, liver failure.

I could not confirm that it causes liquefactive necrosis of the liver specifically, however. I wouldn't doubt it, but I couldn't confirm it.

Edit: I should clarify, I got this from the original thread on Bluesky, not my own identification.

[–] Deebster@programming.dev 49 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] halvar@lemm.ee 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This guy sees the most terrifying description of a toxin killing someone and goes "Yep, that's a fun mushroom facto"

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that is basically what's to be expected from myshrooms

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 48 points 4 months ago (6 children)

joker-shopping i didnt even consider that this AI shit was going to claim to be able to ID mushrooms

ok ive been a little skeptical of the idea so far but now im fully convinced. this dumb ai shit is going to get people killed. like straight up more than one person is going to die because of these upjumped autocorrects masquerading as intelligence. and no one is going to be held responsible.

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[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 42 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Technically it's still edible

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They said you die one or two days after eating. You could definitely eat more than once in that time.

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You'd have to use a very strange definition of edible. For something to be edible it does not only need to be able to fit down your throat, it has to be capable of nourishing you without harming you. You can swallow paper and it won't harm you, but it also can't nourish you and is thus inedible. You can eat this mushroom and it'll probably provide some kind of nourishment, but then it will swiftly kill you and thus it is inedible.

I would accept a definition of edible which includes things you can't digest. For example, gold can also be a food additive referred to by the code E175. Can't digest it, but it doesn't hurt you. So I could accept someone referring to gold as edible. But I think the barest, most universal element of something being edible is that it doesn't kill you. If literal deadly poison is considered edible one must wonder what the word "edible" is even supposed to mean.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Jimmy Neutron "sodium chloride" ass reply, "everything is edible at least once" is a common joke that works precisely because words' definitions are not rigid

Edit: I think it's best to leave this comment up as I originally wrote it, but I'm also going to go on the record to say that I could've and should've phrased this a lot more cordially.

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[–] mononomi@feddit.nl 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Which mushroom is it then? 😱

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 73 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] fox@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eastern North American Destroying Angel. Half a mushroom is enough to completely destroy your liver and symptoms show up too late to do anything about them

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My fucked up brain goes like, "woah, I wonder what death tastes like."

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Probably bitter and followed by a slow agonizing death by liver failure.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

As somebody who has been through liver failure and transplant, it really sucks. I do not recommend it.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Saute in a pan with butter and garlic. Death will taste fabulous.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago

That's cheating. Anything will taste great with butter and garlic.

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[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (10 children)

2 mushrooms hard to fuck up in America.

Chicken of the Forest.

Morels.

I remember selling like 5 lbs of morels when I was a kid and getting like $200. That was without even driving to the city to make the real money.

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[–] The_Tired_Horizon@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (17 children)

I remember being on a wilderness weekend many years ago and being told that when you cut the stem on some poisonous shrooms they discolour a sort of blue tint. I'm lucky, I hate the taste and texture of mushrooms.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I remember years ago reading you can tell if a mushroom is "magic" by blotting it on paper towel and seeing if it stains blue or purple. Unfortunately, that is also how many things say you can tell it's toxic. Maybe you'll trip balls. Maybe you'll die. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you’ll trip balls and THEN die!

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Adds this to the big list of horrible ways to die

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank fuck I don't eat mushrooms

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