And still we’re at 4% market share. They don’t seem to be doing a very good job.
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Obviously, it's Microsoft what did you expect? A job well done?
Its 3.88%, not 4%.
But I think we are hitting 4% quite soon.
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/
When i first got here we hadn't even hit 1% yet. Open source scares Microsoft because if they fuck up they are done but we have a million distributions with a million different mutations its perfect evolution we cannot get worse only better.
Oh, it can get worse. If Windows market share should really plummet, it won't be replaced by a heterogenous distro utopia but some company like Canonical or Red Hat or a new one will get their distribution to fill the gap. And call me a cynic but I doubt this will be immune to enshittification.
But even that scenario is better than what we have with Microsoft and Apple. The FOSS world would still benefit like it does from the Steam Deck developments.
Well, no offense intended, but that is cynical. The only way for enshittification to hit Linux would be if only one group controlled it. When IBM/Red Hat discontinued CentOS, the community immediately moved to fill the gap with AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux.
That said, yes, things can always get worse. I don't think Linux is immune to having problems, but not on the scale of what's happening with Windows with their Copilot garbage.
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We are already (mostly all of us) stuck with one company's systemd. We're already on some portion of what you're describing. As long as we use FOSS I think somebody will be able to fork any software that starts turning to shit with ads, LLM everywhere, spying on your activity, etc.
Thats a very cool perspective. I hadnt considered this. Everyone seems to be hating on linux‘s fracturization but it does remind me of evolution now that you mention it.
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Not the best job, but I guarantee it’s having an effect.
I say this as someone who finally gave Linux another chance about a month ago (due to annoyances with Microsoft) and it’s going really well!
Even a noob like me can just install KDE and learn a few “launch through steam” tricks and I’ve had very minimal issues!
I think a lot of the casuals like me still think Linux is all terminals and command lines, but it’s clear it doesn’t have to be now. And Microsoft’s campaign is what pushed me to come look again!
Market share is going to be a pretty bad metric for this kind of thing because businesses and government are going to stick with even old ass windowsnl installs long after any normal user would have at least upgraded, if not moved to Linux.
Just in my office alone there's got to be at least 50 PCs running windows, and I bet half of the people here don't even have a machine at home, so that's 75 PCs or so amongst just me and my co-workers, and even if every assumed worker went Linux today we'd still be at over 50% windows market share of people who work at my office.
So like, unless multiple businesses and governments that have shown to not care already suddenly decide to were never going to see 50% adoption
Unless we stop including businesses and similar in that share stat.
You may be right, but I think, that in the long term it is possible for Linux to overcome Windows in market share. Also,Germany(the Government of Schleswig Hstein to be Accurate) recently decided on switching to Linux and other Foss Software for their offices. This means, 30.000 workers not using Microsofts bullshit.
I guess a better metric might be the Steam Hardware Survey?
And rising
You must be joking. 4% is kind of huge. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of users
And it's been less than a year since we passed the 3% mark. Linux adoption is accelerating rapidly, and that's only going to increase as its market share continues to grow and more vendors start supporting it.
It's more than that, this is why such a small percent number can be so misleading. There are billions of computers active in the world, even if we limit ourselves to only desktops and laptops, nearly half a billion personal computers are made and sold each year (Lenovo alone sells over 80 million every year). Under 4% we are talking about roughly a hundred million devices running Linux desktop.
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Be glad that it's actually growing. It used to be so much lower.
And we're gonna make it grow so much more.
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Now we just need proper Linux phones as well.
I WANT TO INSTALL FLATPAKS ON MY ANDROID TABLET. ITS ALL I ASK.
Fair phone needs support for Graphene
Fairphone needs to take security seriously and add support for hardware security features, in order for that to happen. https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/112320854846225341
Oh hell, I thought they were good folks. Thank you for making me aware!
What they're doing in regards to the environment and paying their workers fair wages (throughout the entire supply chain) is great - unfortunately their security practices aren't. I think buying a Pixel second hand is the best option, it also saves you some money. You already get extended security updates by using GrapheneOS, as they provide full OS updates for the entire period in which Google supplies (firmware) security updates (which tends to be a few years more than they provide Android feature updates. e.g. the Pixel 6a gets 3 years of feature updates but 5 years of security updates. GrapheneOS provides feature updates for the full 5 years).
I would not recommend a Pixel 6 or anything newer. Samsung can't seem to get 5g working on their own modems (chip that connects to carrier). Samsung generally uses Qualcomm modems for their expensive products. I do hear less people complain with the Pixel 8 but no one should be complaining about a modem in a phone.
I wouldn't recommend anything older than a Pixel 6, because the 5a will reach its EOL in August, and all the older devices already reached their EOL. Regarding the modem, I don't know what you are talking about, I never had any issues on the 6a and the 7 Pro, and never heard about such issues. But feel free to explain this to me.
I have the 6. I set my phone to prefer LTE to gain HOURS of battery life and to get a more stable connection. I always have an issue where the phone may take a minute after pressing call to actually initiate a phone call.
My next phone is probably going to be OnePlus. Either the 6T on PostMarketOS if it actually works or just the latest cheaper model (but I'll wait till the 13, the 6 is only like 2.5 years old).
Isn't the 6T like ancient? Also, bye bye app compatibility and battery life when running postmarketOS.
Yeah, its 6 years old. I'm not recommending people to try PostMarketOS. It's just on my to do list.
It would be a much taller order but support for PostMarketOS (a Linux distro meant for mobile) would be huge.
*Valve
True that, OP did Gabe dirty, Gabe tried selling Linux before it became mainstream
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Honestly, I love windows 10 and windows 7 even more. I have had very little complaints with them and I miss 7 every day. But when support runs out for Windows 10 I'm switching. It seems every single day they come up with another stupid plan or "feature." Whether it's AI that's barely helpful or forcing me to use their software and services, I'm exhausted with the obnoxiously aggressive tactics to get me to use them.
Didn't Linus say once something like: the OS should not get in the way of the User and just launch there Programs and Manage Resources. This is my Main issue with Windows: all the popups, non scipable settings, and the New "features" are on by default
Or their current debacle where they are having constant screenshots of a person's computer
True this was my story. I never had in my mind any idea what linux was and never had the slightest desire to change from windows. I considered myself tech savy and able to do and change anything in windows until they forced my laptop hardware to find out that this can't be the only OS that works as a PC. With W10 end-of-life and after seeing what W11 has become, it's inevitable that the majority of the whole world will soon shift away from them to linux flavors such as POP OS or mint.
I feel like they could even manage to be a salesperson for OpenIndiana at this point
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