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[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Counterpoint: advisor said no.

"Just use Word, everyone else does. I have never heard of this latex thing, so must be just some trendy useless overengineered software that does Word's job but worse. Word can track changes just fine, and you can leave comments." proceeds to strikethrough, highlight, and inline comment everything instead of using either of those features "I want to read what you wrote, not fight technology" proceeds to email you three separate times after forgetting to attach v28 about how a graphic looks wrong because Word ate it

[–] pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While correct in the sense of word and versioning via mail being a nightmare, I really don't think you can expect anyone to learn latex just so they can comment in your document. I would have offered to send a pdf. Shoot me.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would have offered to send a pdf

I would have never considered doing anything but sending a PDF. Even if they do know LaTeX. Unless they're offering to help edit the code for me, what good is it? It's objectively harder to read than the formatted PDF.

That said, marking up a PDF is much more difficult and does require more specialised software and know-how than editing plain text or even editing a Word document. So there are some advantages to it.

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

This is exactly it. My advisor wanted a word doc to edit, not a PDF. I wasn't quite snooty enough to think that he should learn latex. Though, if he ever took the time to learn (what time?), I'm sure the writing process would be unbearable for other reasons not entirely related.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm going to send you a pdf, you van email me back with the notes or comments in the PDF itself, whatever souts your fancy, and I'll keep those notes and send you a new PDF with them.

I did this and I had no issues with any of the thesises I have submitted in my bachelors or masters.

First year calculus teacher, thank you SO much for forcing us to write submissions in latex.

Also, overleaf is a thing, this is not like my 1st year of uni, this 11 years later or so. If your fucking professor never heard of latex they are just bad at academia and shouldn't be teaching honestly. It's not just about the field knowledge.

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm going to send you a pdf, you van email me back with the notes or comments in the PDF itself, whatever souts your fancy, and I'll keep those notes and send you a new PDF with them.

I do this, but from Word.

I learned Latex for my master thesis. Never used it again afterwards, except for my resumé.

[–] WhatIsH2O4@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That's assuming they are competent enough to even use a PDF.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

galaxy-brain: don't even talk to your advisors, just hand in a finished PDF

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learned LaTeX just so I could effectively use git in it.

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
git checkout -b final_version_revised2_REALLYFINALTHISTIME

git commit -am “holy fuck I hope this really is the last edit” 

git push
[–] Turun@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

git tag "FINAL FINAL FINAL DRAFT - v20"

[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

docx files are actually zip archives with xml in them

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Let me tell you something. I cannot tell you what company, but I have been tasked with putting Excel files in git "because they are just zip archives with xml" and it is just a disaster. Everytime you save the document it will save certain parts of the xml code in arbitrary ways (like each image is in a list and the order of that list is random everytime), some metadata is re-written everytime like time of last modified and finally all the xml files are one single line. The git diffs are complete useless and noisy and just looking at the Excel file will cause git to consider it updated. So sure, you can use git to snapshot you Office documents... But just don't.

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Doesn't matter, to git they are still binary files, which means it'll check in each revision as an entirely new copy.

Yes, you might only see the most recent one in your working directory, but under the hood, all the other ones are still there in the repo.

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[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wrote my thesis in Google Docs on my university account.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

Google Docs is perfect for stuff like this. Great history management, better (though not great) at formatting and stuff, has features like revisions from editors and notes. Way better than Word IMO.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't forget to push.

Several times I've lost large chunks of work because I usually copy files from the main folder to backup folders, but occasionally I copy files from a folder that was an old backup, reverting all files everywhere by mistake.

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