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Context: this is a legit screenshot I took on my workplace around 1.5 years ago. Hopefully it's been patched by now? Completely ridiculous behavior

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[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Apple users have to jump through so many hoops just to look down on everyone else

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I know nobody asked, but the reputation Macs have amongst IT industry professionals is insanely annoying to me. I guess it's a difference between what I like in a laptop versus what other people like in them.

I've seen developers working for FAANGs unironically praise the M1 Macbooks as work machines. And I'm just sitting here, like...why? You are locked into an inferior operating system that becomes progressively more janky the deeper you get into its configuration. I have one and the damn thing has an option to change the "modifier key" for the fucking mouse, so you can change your mouse's modifier key to its ctrl or shift key, apparently. Y'know, in case your standard 20 dollar Logitech wired mouse, like the one I'm using, has shift and modifier keys. Just super useful /s. It randomly had slack muted after installing it, so I could never get message notifications until I figured out what to alter after digging through the guts of its terrible system configuration UI. It can't remember the order of attached displays and half the time I have to rearrange them after resuming it from hibernation. If you want to do basic window manager things, like press the meta key (also referred to as the windows key on non-macbooks) + direction arrow to have a window snap to a quadrant of your screen, you have to install a 3rd party application with Homebrew. Its keyboard is that weird, unresponsive, flat form factor that makes it a nightmare to actually use as a portable device. With any luck you don't have to compile anything for it, because...you probably won't be able to. Perhaps most annoying is the fact that, even if you want to use it as a full desktop replacement and plug in 3 monitors with the same resolution into it at a desk (most Macs have at least passable 3rd party dock support), the Mac just won't let you. It only lets you plug in 2 and it duplicates one of those two onto the 3rd one. If you want to plug in 3, you technically can: you just have to download 3rd party displaylink drivers, which, knowing Apple, probably won't fucking work and might permanently fuck up your display.

I get that it's a relatively powerful computer for the ludicrous amount of battery life it gives you, but that's purely because it's an extremely optimized ARM based processor that's only designed to work with this specific operating system. I also get that machines running Linux also have their own problems, but you aren't paying for whatever Linux distro you're running (probably) and you also have the power to change things with a little bit of effort. If I'm buying a machine like an M1, where the OS is presumably part of the whole "package," it should just work well out of the box.

Beyond those complaints, it's got good speakers and never produces any heat. Honestly, the only good things about the machines are those hardware elements: the speakers, battery life, and lack of heat. If they could run linux and had decent keyboards, I might like them. But Apple is practically an antonym for FOSS at this point. I also have a Thinkpad X1 Carbon, which is physically a worse machine: it gets hot, has a fraction of the battery life, etc. But you can install any Linux distro (that isn't Nix based, sadly) to it without issue and its keyboard makes it actually tolerable to code on for extended periods. I wonder if the people that really like the M1s like them because it's the laptop equivalent of an iPhone.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

For your next laptop you should try the framework and laptop, theyre very cool

[–] Ilflish@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It never produces heat. Until it does and my word does it. I've been getting the slack issues and display issues as well. Also found out today the provided calendar hasn't actually been sending off my invite responses to anyone and got called in for not letting people know which meetings I was attending.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can install Linux on Apple Silicon Macs. Check out Asahi Linux.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not trying to be rude, but this is terrible advice. Asahi Linux is nowhere near ready for use on a work computer.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Telling someone to check something out isn't the same as saying they should use it. You were stating falsehoods that paint Apple products in a bad light.

It's also quite usable. The reason it's in beta is because certain features don't work.

[–] Senseless@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Seriously. I have a co-worker that tries to convert everyone to use apple products. The iPad I have from work needs to have a battery charged to x% before you can turn it on, no matter if a charger is plugged in.

Oh, you want to change the default search engine in Safari? Here, pick one out of this list or gtfo. You want to use add-ons in Firefox? Ha! They're not certified, so there's no native expansion shop on iOS.

Thanks, I like to customize my own OS and not be bullied into what I'm allowed to do with it.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine buying a computer with only two ports.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Woman came to give a presentation at work without an hdmi port in her laptop.

Was dumbfounded at lack of ports. Thought only apple was this closed but it was a cheapo windows

[–] justJanne@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Badly shielded USB3 causes RF leaks at 2.4GHz. use 5Ghz WiFi or better shielded devices.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is the answer.

Some early wifi routers with USB ports on them had the same issue.

[–] jmd_akbar@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Apple: "You're not using your mac how we designed it to. Please pay $4000 more to use the right side usb-c without issues".

[–] spyjoshx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Laughs in framework with four identical USB-C ports that can do anything

[–] graff@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe you were holding it wrong

[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh, I forgot about that one! Apple are full of shit. Also "it's not a bug, it's a feature" is a classic.

Whoops, it seems the last one isn't from Apple, I guess I've just seen it used about their products so many times I assumed it originated from them...sorry about that. I shouldn't go around the internet assuming things.

[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

The Internet has decided you are wrong and have charged you with the punishment of death. Have a nice day!

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"We conform to the open standard, but only to the parts that we like"

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea... I hate the shit out of M$FT but I'm still never going to buy a fucking Mac.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't remember which model it was, but wasn't there a MacBook Pro that had 4 USB-C ports, only two of which supported Thunderbolt? Want to connect your monitor to the right side of the machine? Well... tough shit, I guess.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Somewhat tangential, but USB-C docking stations, as useful as it is to have everything in one cable, it can also be annoying.

At the office, I often just want to charge my laptop with them, but they also give me a wired internet connection, which, thanks to corporate networking shitfuckery, doesn't work. So, every time I plug in, I have to disable that wired connection.

Also, recently a colleague had problems getting her headset working when she was plugged into certain docks, ultimately due to a bug in the OS.
Like, alright, that should be fixed in the OS, but that USB-C dock doesn't even have a speaker attached to it. It's completely useless that it shows up as an audio device.
And even after we found a workaround to fix her headset, she will now have to switch over her audio device every time she plugs into a dock.

So, basically it's now one step to plug in the cable, but potentially multiple steps to undo half of what you unwillingly plugged in...

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

Get a condom

[–] dark_stang@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm amazed at how many professionals use Macs because Apple seems to hate power users. I had to use a Mac briefly recently and was amazed to find they still don't have window snapping.

It also had no idea what to do with my monitor, couldn't even detect the correct resolution. I'm guessing if I had bought a $3000 Apple monitor it would have worked immediately. But had to dive into "advanced settings" just to set the correct resolution.

[–] wraithcoop@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

check out Rectangles my dude (obviously doesn't come with it but in case you're looking)

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

Apple power users are people who actually want to use Linux but think it's bad (except for audio professionals because Macs actually have a monopoly on audio latency/pipelining)

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My PC went through a phase of switching off when you accessed the network share with my pictures on it.

I could access it locally. I could use other network shares.

It stopped doing that when I swapped the PSU.

Fuck computers, I want to live in a cave.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

Did you try swapping the cables first?