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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (4 children)

How fucking Christian of him. Jesus would be sooooo fucking proud.

[–] glouriousgouda@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 5 months ago

I can't hardly take them or anyone that tosses the xtian mythology around. Why should we? History hasn't shown us a "god". Only shifty humans arguing over imaginary friends.

Can we stop letting them in positions of power already? They obviously aren't fit for leadership or power.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

That's because he's a performative Christian, or "Christian." He doesn't believe in anything unless it help him get ahead in life - just like most politicians and other moderate-to-high functioning psychopaths and sociopaths.

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[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Lindsey is part of the swamp. He's a Christian Zionist, a doomsday Christian. These types of Christians want to hasten the Day of Judgement. Pretty much they're psychopaths thanks to the Scofield Reference Bible.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I cannot for the life of me figure out why, if you believe in Christian Mythology, even to the point of wanting Judgement Day to come during your lifetime, why you would personally take efforts that you know are going to end in mass civilian deaths.

Assuming you are right and Judgement Day is on the horizon, are you not damning yourself to the deepest pits of Hell by spending your time leading up to the Rapture ordering the slaughter of innocent people, rather than say glorifying and spreading the word of God?

I don't believe in any of it, but if I did, I sure wouldn't be advocating for mass-murder right before God shows up to judge me for the way I lived my life on Earth.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Number one rule of Christian Narcissism: That rule was written for the others. It doesn't apply to me. I'm not doing anything wrong.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

I am christian because I say I am, therefor everything I do is christian and thus righteous.

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[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

I bet they would be off the rails no matter of the literature choices

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Say it a little louder for all the dipshits trying to argue that a trump presidency would be better for Gaza than Biden is.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago (16 children)

If Trump wins I'm going to be too preoccupied with the climate disaster and end of American democracy (in that order) to give a single fuck about what happens in Gaza, Ukraine, or anywhere else.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Reverse order for me, the climate distaste I worry about with a Republican dictatorship is a nuclear winter. But that might be growing up during the Cold War talking.

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[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Why aren't the "But Biden!" people in this thread? It's so very strange they seem to be absent (no, it really isn't).

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There's really no reason to ever report on or pay attention to things Lindsay Graham says. He has no real values or stands of his own. He is a spineless jellyfish that goes with the tide wherever it allows him to keep the most power.

I have never seen any evidence of him ever voicing and sticking to an actual personal belief.

[–] Maddier1993@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, we should keep outing these Nazis whenever we can so that the decent part of society doesn't collectively forget who punched down and who punched up.

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[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How's the mental illness going Lindsey? oh ok.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Brain worms.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a Facebook tag group called "OP getting hammered harder than Lindsay Graham's tonsils at a truck stop" and that's what I think of when I see his name.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Democrats love being as homophobic as possible to stick it to a Republican.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the policy makers of the united states of America

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Voted in by a generation of entitled, narcissistic boomers that were unfortunately exposed to leaded gasoline and paint at an early age, who know about as much about world history as their IQ counterparts: third graders.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying we should nuke South Carolina for years.

[–] BuckyVanBuren@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The US has already dropped two nukes on South Carolina.

What more do you want?

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For the nukes dropped to explode? I dont think its a good idea.. but the nukes dropped accidentally didnt explode, which greatly reduces the effect.

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago

I want them to explode.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Japan was completely blockaded, which is such a profound thing in war that it's really all you need to defeat "nuking was necessary" arguments.

And they were completely resource starved, another profoundly important detail of a war machine.

And the fanaticism + "they will die to the last man, woman, and child" is grossly misrepresented in the context of nukes.

But these details aren't relevant to how Palestinians and the situation in Gaza is portrayed. No siree.

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[–] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Counterproposal: let's nuke Lindsey

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[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, nuke countries that can't nuke back.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Her congrats Lindsey, you figured out the path to peace that I thought was a good idea (briefly) when I was a stupid teenager.

Hint: the idea of stupid and you're stupid.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (17 children)

I feel like the narrative surrounding the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings has changed enormously since I was a kid.

I remember learning that, while tragic, the number of lives lost in the bombing paled in comparison to the numbers of lives being lost and that would be lost in winning the war by conventional means. That it was a way to minimize further bloodshed.

I'm not super well read on the subject, but is that not true? Or, if it is true, does it not matter?

I'm mostly just trying to figure out what caused the shift.

[–] sbr32@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Some disclaimers

I am a 50+ year old American

Up until 10ish years ago I had at least a better than average understanding/knowledge of WWII

My ex's grandmother's family was from Hiroshima and they had family members killed in the bombing.

All that said as tragic as they were I still think those bombs were the correct military decision at that time. I would be willing to have a rational conversation about it though.

The situation in Gaza is completely different and Lindsey Graham and the rest of the GOP are fucking ghouls.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Also, I have always thought that, as horrific and tragic as what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were, the fact that the world was able to view the aftermath has been what has prevented a larger nuclear exchange. I don't know if the Cuban Missile Crisis would have gone the same way without everyone knowing exactly what an atomic bomb does.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

Back in 2017 or so, I had a full on MAGA coworker who was ecstatic about the migrant detention centers at the border. If anything, he felt we weren't torturing them enough. One day, he dropped a line that was so heinous it still sticks with me to this day: "we used to do the same to the Japanese and no one cared about it then, so why is everyone up in arms about it now?"

All this to say I'm not at all surprised they're saying this now. They've always felt this way, and they know how despicable it is.

Fwiw, the dude was a 50-something year old Israeli immigrant. He also joked about wanting to join the military to "practice on live targets"

I hate this timeline so much

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

And this guy is considering sane compared to Trump.

But yes please don't for Biden so that we see what nuclear genocide looks like I guess?

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

Why is the answer always more murder?

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Nuke Jerusalem; piss off everyone. It's the only truly even-handed action.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (10 children)

So… he knows that… like… Israel would be in the blast radius and Jerusalem and Tel Aviv probably affected by a shit ton of radiation….

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The senator continued to call the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki “the right decision” by the U.S. That decision ended the war with Japan, but killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians between the initial blasts and the deadly radiation that followed.

“Give Israel the bombs they need to end the war they can’t afford to lose, and work with them to minimize casualties,” Graham insisted.

He didn’t directly suggest nuking Gaza, but he made multiple parallels between ending the war in Japan by using nukes and then basically says we should give bombs to Israel to finish the job without specifying what he means.

So while someone might argue black and white letter of what he said isn’t “nuke Gaza”, he’s still implying something along those lines - the quick finish and a method that can do it.

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[–] mycathas9lives@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It's not clear how low these people will truly go. The bottom fell out long ago and we are going to see these guys get a lot worse. There are no boundaries to guide them. They will continue to reach no lows time and time again. It's infinite.

[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I gotta give these people credit. It must take a massive amount of effort to try and be this consistently on the wrong side of history. Like, at some point, it has to be deliberate...

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